Initial Mining

[Reviresco]

It's very loud.

The particle effect is very obvious.

Took these when I was just line-mining to increase my cave-down chance but found silver, and didn't have a mine support on me. Zoomed pretty far out though.

http://i.imgur.com/kL3OpOi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xP2qx3R.jpg

[Fidgety]

Ok, thanks, the cave in dosn't just fall on 1 tile does it? that would be pretty timid. How many tiles worth of rubble falls?

[Reviresco]

Ok, thanks, the cave in dosn't just fall on 1 tile does it? that would be pretty timid. How many tiles worth of rubble falls?

No, it falls on multiple tiles. In the 2nd screenshot you can see the particle effects still coming down over a tile that already has rubble on it.

I don't really know about the area of effect, because I always mine under supports except when I'm line-mining. So the cave-ins were always confined to a 1-unit wide corridor.

I know that I've seen cave-ins in corridors that were sort of "checkerboard," meaning rubble falls on one tile and not the next, and so forth. It seems fairly random. I've heard the rubble area is roughly the size of the radius of a mine support, but I can't confirm that.

[jcwilk]

I've heard the rubble area is roughly the size of the radius of a mine support, but I can't confirm that.

Yeah that's about right, a little bit less I think and yeah it seems to be randomly chosen tiles with tiles closer to the cave in tile being much more likely and the ones further much more sparsely caved in.

[Fidgety]

Thanks everyone, I feel I have a much better understanding of it now. One last thing I'd like to ask though. I have a vague memory when I first started playing a few weeks ago, of reading a forum post, that someone had built a building in the mine. Is this possible? to build a say, ore smelter underground? Might be a daft question, I have been in quite a few mines and haven't come across anything built underground.

[Reviresco]

http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Mine_Entrance

There's a list of what can and can't be built in a mine.

I can't vouch for it being totally accurate, though.

I do know that ore smelters can be, though.

[jcwilk]

Thanks everyone, I feel I have a much better understanding of it now. One last thing I'd like to ask though. I have a vague memory when I first started playing a few weeks ago, of reading a forum post, that someone had built a building in the mine. Is this possible? to build a say, ore smelter underground? Might be a daft question, I have been in quite a few mines and haven't come across anything built underground.

Yeah that link Rev posted seems up to date from what I can tell, though there's a few funny cases like I think it's correct that you can't build a loom in a mine, but you can pick it up and bring it into a mine. And I think you might not be able to build a compost bin in a mine but can bring it in, can't remember. Can definitely get them in one way or another though, underground fungiculture lab ^_^

It's worth noting though, while there's a huge benefit in building things underground (unlimited space) there's also a huge risk in that if anyone is able to even briefly penetrate your defenses and get into the mine they can destroy and steal things at their leisure once inside since you can't make claims inside mines or build defenses or walls or anything like that. So if you do plan to invest heavily in your mine make sure it's defended like crazy.

Edit: Finery forge isn't listed there but it can be built inside too.

[Fidgety]

Thanks to everyone who posted advice and info, very much appreciated.

[Kandarim]

bread oven can also be built inside of a mine, even though that page indicated it can't.

[Taipion]

You can basically build everything in a mine that is:
- not limited to be build inside houses (like cupboards)
- not needing soil (tilled fields, planted trees/bushes)
- not needing pavement (like houses)
- not a fence/wall/brazier/TP/claim/leanto