San Bernardino Terrorism

[Darwoth]

oh, by the way.

Authorities investigating the massacre in San Bernardino, Calif., say they have yet to determine a motive for the mass shooting that left 14 dead and 21 others wounded during a company holiday party at the Inland Regional Center on Wednesday. But law enforcement officials appear to be treating the attack as an act of terrorism.

The suspects — 28-year-old Syed Rizwan Farook and his wife, 27-year-old Tashfeen Malik — fired 65 to 75 rounds at the facility and left 1,400 rounds of ammunition and three pipe bombs attached to a remote-control device before fleeing the scene, San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan told reporters Thursday morning.

The couple was killed in a massive shootout with police following a high-speed chase through San Bernardino. Police found an additional 1,600 rounds inside their rented SUV and a cache of weapons — including 6,700 rounds of ammunition and 12 more pipe bombs — in the apartment they shared in nearby Redlands.

Officials said that the two were not on the U.S. counterterrorism radar prior to the rampage.

Accoridng to CNN, Farook, an American citizen, traveled to Saudi Arabia where he met Malik in 2013 during a Muslim pilgrimmage to Mecca.

FBI assistant director David Bowdich said Malik, a native of Pakistan, came to the United States in July 2014 on a “fiancée visa,” eventually marrying Farook and giving birth to a daughter earlier this year.


At some point, CNN reports, Farook became radicalized and was “in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism.” But the network's law enforcement source cautioned that Farook’s alleged contact with known terror suspects were “soft connections.”

Witnesses told police Farook, an employee with the San Bernardino County public health department, was at the company’s holiday party but left after an apparent dispute, returning to the event with his wife wearing tactical-looking gear and carrying assault weapons.

“There appears to be a degree of planning that went into this,” Burguan said. “Nobody gets upset at a party, goes home and puts together that kind of an elaborate scheme or plan to come back and do that.”

At the White House, President Obama said it was possible that the deadly assault in San Bernardino was “terrorist-related,” “workplace-related” or both.

“But we don’t know,” Obama said. ( )

ain't it just ***** how EVERYTHING i predicted within the first hour would be the case has ONCE AGAIN as ALWAYS been proven accurate? so much for claeyt and his theories again eh?


i would feel a lot better in a room full of satanists than muslims

[TotalyMeow]

1,015 people out of 300+ million.

So you don't believe in the math of Polling? You realize that all polls ever are statistical samples that use polling data to make predictions right?

1000 people is actually enough to give a 4% margin of error. Meaning that the quoted 55% may be actually as high as 59% or as low as 51%, assuming the samples were taken correctly. According to the PDF about the study on the website you linked, the sampling and calculations of the results were weighted in various ways to concentrate the questions in denser populations and based on ethnicity, gender, education, etc. They also had quotas for cell phones and 'minimum quotas by region'. It's not specified what percentage each region was required to meet or what specifically a 'region' was defined as.

It may very well have been a fairly accurate sample as far as polls go, but you have to ask, how did current events affect the answers considering they asked the question of people just after there was a shooting that had everyone in an irrational panic. There's also the generality of the question: In general, do you feel that the laws covering the sale of firearms should be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now? I have a few opinions on specific things that should be more strict, should be less strict or should stay as is... but overall what does that average out to? I have no idea, my answer might depend on my mood. When asked out of the blue, how many people will have a thought out answer for such a vague question and how many will just pick based on how they're feeling at the time?

Most interesting though, is that the PDF goes back all the way to 1990 where the 'strict' option was at 78% and steadily fell until 2000 where it was at 62% at the beginning of that chart, a number which is still higher than it is today. Overall, according to this poll, the feeling that more strict gun laws are needed has been dropping over the past two and a half decades.

It's so obvious that the muslim is not THAT killing spree religion that you now think it is. Otherwise, most of us would be dead since the beginning in a religious war highly more wanted.
Have you never studied something that goes back of more than 300 years ago, afterall?

Have you taken a look at the history of that region yourself? They've been invading Europe and Africa for hundreds of years and being driven back again. The Library at Alexandria was possibly burned by Arabic invaders (they claim it is so). The Spanish Moors were invaders who came and stayed. The taking of captives as slaves from Europe and Africa began centuries ago and continued until 1900 when it officially stopped.

[Reviresco]

The Koran specifically states that you are to either slay non-Muslims, or levy Jizya ("capitulation tax", essentially Mafia-style protection money extortion) against them, force them to accept Dhimmi status (effectively, second-class citizenship), and make it known that they are to to openly proclaim that Islam is correct and to accept any humiliations, which would all be just, inflicted upon them by their Muslim rulers. Establishment of supremacy over non-Muslims by any means is mandated.

As a bonus, it also fervently encourages slavery. It encourages owners to breed slaves. Slaves are permitted to marry at their owner's discretion, but a slave owner may have sex with his female slaves regardless of her marital status.

I've read it cover to cover, and it's on my bookshelf, but in the English translation. I'm sure it actually says to pass out lollipops in Arabic.

The more secularized Muslim governments had to pass reforms that went against religious texts.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Tanzimat

[Flame]

I would know who here knows which tribes, factions and countries are fighting this war, and which one of them is the terrorist one.

Is just that i see a huge lack of info, here and there, that i wonder who here is interested on explore what's going on and who is only interested on rage blindly against something that don't know.

This is where Muslim is well settled up.


This is the core of the conflict.


And i think you can guess by yourself that terrorism is not from 1/3th of the world, and that you have eyes to see that the "enemy" is a dot on a world map. If it was "all the muslim" and if "all the muslim is about kill people", they didn't needed to be "terrorist", they would be a huge army against us. Which is not.

I say this not to defend terrorism (do you see where italy is, compared to that dot, aya? A canoe of distance. I have more than a good reason to KNOW what's going on), but to prevent that an army of crazy white people goes on a battle against 1/3th of the world, totally not knowing who the enemy is and where it is. A quite unbalanced and highly raging thing, easily exploitable.
Keep calm and use your brain.

[Darwoth]

the "war" is ongoing, its real simple who the sides are islam against non islam.

if however you meant the ***** in syria instead then here ya go.



the reasons behind the conflict are wide and varied, as are the alliances involved.

a big part (but not nearly all) of the REAL reason for this ***** is that syria has blocked a pipline that would greatly damage russias economy, the traitorous kenyan muslim in the whitehouse is at odds with russia over numerous issues, so since syria would not play ball he wanted assad out. so the attempts to destabilize the region began by financing and arming terrorist factions including al nusra (aka renamed al qaeda that hit new york) that are fighting against the syrian government to establish their own muslim state. syria held on better than expected and when it started getting dire russia came to the aid of their allies who has been plunged into chaos largely due to their support of russia.

then you have a wide array of vendettas, religious and tribal loyalties from the various muslim nations supporting their personal flavor of terrorists, along with the turks and even israeli's financing them by buying their $20 a barrel oil and so on (hence the reason the turks sent up two f-16s to drop the russian su-24 that was "supposedly" in their air space for all of 17 seconds and not armed for air to air combat, because after a year of obama bombing empty outhouses in the desert while talking out of his ass putin blew the **** out of their entire isis oil infrastructure in a week)

as always, the root of the conflict is natural resources and money. once an alternative fuel source is discovered that entire ***** will again return to the sand and nobody will care.

[Darwoth]

also in other news the ***** democrats have already tried to exploit the muslim terrorism while people are still grieving to sneak gun control garbage in, the senate rejected both attempts yesterday. go ***** yourself claeyt.

[Dallane]

New salem poll shows that 90% of the population thinks cleaty is a retard

[Thor]

also in other news the ***** democrats have already tried to exploit the muslim terrorism while people are still grieving to sneak gun control garbage in, the senate rejected both attempts yesterday. go ***** yourself claeyt.

Justice.

[Dallane]

Again chill with the gun control BS. It has nothing to do with what happened. The broken record argument is a derail at this point

[Claeyt]

ain't it just ***** how EVERYTHING i predicted within the first hour would be the case has ONCE AGAIN as ALWAYS been proven accurate? so much for claeyt and his theories again eh?

i would feel a lot better in a room full of satanists than muslims

What theory are you talking about exactly? The one where you predicted 3 muslims snuck across the mexican border to kill a bunch of county workers?

Once it was revealed the guy was muslim all hell broke loose theory wise from the news. It still doesn't look like this guy had any connections to any 'groups' and it's now being revealed that he had an ongoing argument with his messianic jewish co-worker.