San Bernardino Terrorism

[Claeyt]

Again, 22-40% of all gun sales do not receive a background check: http://www.citylab.com/crime/2015/10/ma ... ks/411946/

Unfortunately the federal government can't be more exact on where and how these guns are sold without background checks (gunshows, private sales) because the Republicans have blocked the government from tracking gun sales or using federal money to research gun deaths or sales.

Notable mass murder gun collections bought without background checks include David Koresh and the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

it is just like the gay agenda, it is all about push push pushing on every front even nonsensical ones until they have a 100 different ways to interefere.

liberals are nothing if not liars and snakes in the grass, they obfuscate the truth and invent fantasy to support their unreality.

This is some deeep, deep paranoia here. You might want to see someone professionally about this Darwoth.

[Darwoth]

i am educating those with the ability to be educated, i do not even read your filth anymore.

[TotalyMeow]

Not allowing people on the Federal Terror watch list to buy guns (77%).

This seems like a strange thing to approve of. I mean, the name is sure scary enough; 'Federal Terror Watch List' makes it seem like "oh we sure wouldn't want those people to have guns". But there are two problems here. The smaller one being that not all terrorists are on the list, so those who are can easily get those who aren't to buy them guns. These people we're talking about weren't on that list or any other list and had no criminal records. The man who bombed the Boston Marathon was also not on that watch list.

But the far larger problem is that not all people on the list are terrorists and do you even know what the criteria are for getting on the Federal Terror Watch List? They are actually very loose, vague requirements; you can be added to that list simply because someone who doesn't like you thought you were a little terroristy and wrote in a nomination. No concrete evidence is actually required, just an opinion that you seem shady. You can be added much more easily if you belong to certain "categories" of people. And once you get on it, good luck getting off, it's almost impossible. There are millions of people on this list, though we can't know the exact number since it's a secret and you won't even know if you are on it unless someone denies you air travel or something.

This list is a far cry from the convicted felon list which currently prohibits buying of firearms to those who have been given a (hopefully) fair trial and convicted of a crime. Denying people who are on this 'Terror' watch list from purchasing a gun is a punishment of someone who has not yet been proven guilty and may be completely innocent. It's against the Fifth and Fourteenth amendment to do this; it would be deprivation of liberty and/or property without due process of law.

Source:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/nsb/tsc/te ... -questions

Easy read article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/2 ... 17599.html

[Darwoth]

Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted Oct. 7-11, 2015, with a random sample of 1,015 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on the total sample of national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95% confidence level. All reported margins of sampling error include computed design effects for weighting.

Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 60% cellphone respondents and 40% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Landline and cellular telephone numbers are selected using random-digit-dial methods

1,015 people out of 300+ million.

this is exactly what i just mentioned, they call around until they get the percentage skew they want. usually in urban areas where there are less gun owners. pay attention to the second paragraph as well, 60% of the people they polled were on a cellphone, aka typically a 20 something retard on his smartphone that knows nothing about anything.

[Claeyt]

1,015 people out of 300+ million.

So you don't believe in the math of Polling? You realize that all polls ever are statistical samples that use polling data to make predictions right?

[Darwoth]

no i do not believe in the "math of polling", particularly when the poll is recast over and over until it meets what their aiming for and the criteria for the polled adheres to a stereotype that will further skew the results.

mark twain didn't either.

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments.

[Trismegistus]

I've become convinced that Claeyt and Darwoth are a married couple and in order to save the relationship they agree to not argue politics in person and instead bring it to the Salem forums. It's a beautiful thing.

[Darwoth]

after my wife is done ***** at me about random bits of everything she is going to kick your ass for calling her claeyt.

[Flame]

I really can't understand why a killer is seen as representative of a religion ancient like the catholicism or christianity. It's so obvious that the muslim is not THAT killing spree religion that you now think it is. Otherwise, most of us would be dead since the beginning in a religious war highly more wanted.
Have you never studied something that goes back of more than 300 years ago, afterall?

Whatever.
They are extremist. So you should act like if they are dust in a beach, not the whole beach.
It's not that hard, but 'still people find easier to discard half of the world due few extremist people.


Am i going to be a crazy christian that "kill people" ,for you eyes, when will come the day where some crazy christian with stupid ideas will kill others?
If so, i would be really disappointed by your turnaround and easy erasable memory.

[Darwoth]

because most muslims believe the countries they live in should be governed by sharia law.

because islam teaches the death or forced conversion of non muslims

because there are hundreds of thousands of muslims actively doing exactly that and killing hundreds of thousands of people

because everytime a terrorist massacre happens it is a muslim.


if i had a bowl of grapes and told you two of them were poisoned, do you want some grapes? yeah, me neither.