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Re: Paris

Postby Flame » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:27 am

Only one post.

140 people die because some crazy man wanna destroy a society and a religion.
Then, a bunch of political dudes say "People, grant us the permission to destroy the society with anti-legal rules, because we are under attack and this is the way to protect you all!!" (after they throwed bombs on foreign people for 6 years for hobby)

None of them want our safeness, both of them want us dead. The first one, literally. The second one, socially.

I'm sorry that 140 person have died and all the living man around them are trying to take advantage from it.
There's no time to cry for the deads, we are in endangered by our same people now. And they could kill our freedom and future WAY MORE than a bunch of killers.

Don't fear the death. Fear who gain advantage from your dead.
Fear the politicians that secretly smiles at this disaster and have always a "law ready for the situation" which is ALWAYS the same, damned, liberty cutting law.
I'm not talking about the freedom of say stupid things all the time, of step on other people head 'cuz you have more money, or other freedom that are more similar to distopy.
I'm talking about the real freedom. Religion, laws, politic, privacy, rights.

They know where Isis is.
Can i trust that a bunch of not tecnologically advanced people like them can be hidden by secret services that can use satellites, drones and any other kind of strategy for 6 years?
As for now, no satellites or rocket have been launched by Isis, so... no. I can't trust this.
I don't trust the politician. 140 dead people are "usefull death people" to create terror and change the law in a way that is really worring.

MAFIA knew that there were terrorist, and mafia don't like them, so the pact was "leave from here, do whatever you want outside here".
Mafia doesn't have satellites, either. Is a sub-society grown in the illegality, but still it was aware about this.

Is you now really focused so much on the death? Think about the living, and what are they risking.
We are risking to loose, step by step, our society, and not by terrorist hands.
I don't want that me, my parent or whoever i know, when will be killed, will be sacrified on the crux of hipocrity and opportunism.
A bomb, a gun, a knife, is a cruel way to leave the world but more cruel is who desecreate my death to gain advantage from it over the blinded, scared people that suffer for my death.
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Re: Paris

Postby Claeyt » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:12 pm

Darwoth wrote:"lollllll whats the difference between this christian holding a gun and this muslim terrorist holding a gun?!?!?!" - lol uh nothing i guess, cept that the christian wants to shoot paper targets in her backyard and the muslim wants to shoot you and your entire family for not being a muslim.


Christian Terrorists Terrorize America!!!

The proof is ripped from the front page of the 'Mail' today which proves it all:

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Re: Paris

Postby Dallane » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:24 pm

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Re: Paris

Postby Claeyt » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:48 pm

Dallane wrote:No one cares stop trying to bring this thread back alive with your *****.

Back to life? The last post was just 2 days ago.
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Re: Paris

Postby Darwoth » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:05 pm

oh gee look, it is ***** about 15 pages behind the curve like usual
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Re: Paris

Postby Claeyt » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:08 pm

"I will always fight the growth of fascism in any form and on any battlefield, the free hopes and dreams of my children's children depend on it."

- Anonymous 85 year old member of the 'Lincoln Battalion' at a remembrance of the Spanish Civil war in 1996.

"Fascism is a religious concept"

-Benito Mussolini

Darwoth wrote:you are ALL BEING LED TO YOUR DEATHS by a handful of liberals that have SPENT DECADES BRAINWASHING GENERATIONS OF YOU to accept this insanity.

where the ***** are the roving bands of english soccer hooligans that crack skulls for fun? where are the neonazi german skinheads? where are the swedish biker gangs? why are they not battling the enemy in the streets? is there not a single ***** alpha male left over there?

i do not even live there and it pisses me off so bad to see this being allowed to happen all across the continent. thousands of years of history, culture and sacrifice, the roots of civilization, the beginnings of my own country all for it to end like this.

the complete death of europe is at hand right NOW

As I read this whole thread during my exile I just laughed and laughed. Because Darwoth is basically saying the exact same things that ISIS is saying. He goes on and on about how European culture is dying and how Western Civilization is falling and these are the exact same things ISIS uses to recruit young arabs.

For historical context ISIS is using the fall of the Islamic world over the last 200 years as their motivation for war. They harp on and on about the Muslim defeats in Spain, Russia and Central Europe 400-500 years ago to try and prove the need for terrorism against Europe. They harp on and on about how India used to be ruled by Muslim kings before the Hindu's and British pushed them out. They talk on and on about how Colonialism stopped Islam from spreading south in Africa and how the mostly non-Muslim Nigerians, Ethiopians and Kenyans have defeated them from controlling Africa. They talk about the break up of the Ottoman Empire as if it happened yesterday. Mostly though they argue over and over again about how 'Western Civilization' is destroying 'Arabic Civilization'.

They sound exactly like Darwoth. This is why they are Evil.


Darwoth wrote:unfortunately the die is now cast, nothing short of a modern hitler and total shift of the public view to a nationalist right wing mindset will save europe from the muslims now.


I was a teacher during 9/11 and I remember the kids asking me about Bin Laden, the terrorists and why they did it and I always asked them an equivalency within European History and eventually they'd come to Hitler. The Nazi's were/are the ISIS of European History. Always remember that.

Dallane wrote:Sounds about right after letting unknown amounts of terrorist in their country. Wonder how often this is going to happen.

The right wing nut-jobs keep equating terrorists to refugees. It's now been proven that none, NONE of the Paris Attackers, Charlie Hebdo attackers or any of the major terrorist attacks in Europe were committed by refugees. All of them were either 2nd generation immigrants or there on migrant worker or student visas. Almost all of them had EU passports from various countries. The one guy they found to have come through Greece did so to avoid getting detained if he attempted to go through the airports or trains. He used a fake Syrian passport when he had a legal EU passport because he believed he was on a watch list and he was.

After and during World War II America was flooded with Europeans refugees fleeing the carnage. Some people like Darwoth hated them and tried to stop it because they were Jewish, or Catholic or didn't speak English but the better kindness of our national soul ignored the Darwoth's of the last century and helped them. We helped Europe rebuild, we helped Japan rebuild, we helped because we could.

(Note: This wasn't just against Jews and Catholics. I remember old people telling Sven and Oli jokes when I was a kid. These were basically making fun of Norwegian and Swedish immigrants who didn't understand America or speak English when they immigrated here.)

Arabic Refugees WILL change the face of Europe just like the refugees of the past changed the face of America. The first generation of immigrants will struggle with the languages and other aspects of Europe but they'll work hard to make sure their kids have a chance. The second generation will retain the religious, language and cultural aspects of where their parents came from. The'll fight against the cultural changes within themselves and yes, some small minuscule amount of them will see Europe as evil and culturally dominating and join ISIS. As the third, fourth and fifth generations become more and more European they will not completely melt into the vast diaspora and become part of 'European Culture'. They may always get asked where they are from even though they've been speaking English/French/German/Swedish as a first language and were born in the country and they'll resent that older people will never view them as fully "Swedish", "French" or "German" or whatever but eventually they'll see themselves represented in the countries their great-grandparents chose to move to and eventually Europe will look a little bit more like America.

Many of the 'Paris Attack' victims were Muslims. Look at them....

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... rance-isis

Look at how European they were. The terrorists viewed them as Europeans when they gunned them down because they were. They represent how Islam will eventually look in Europe and hopefully around the world.

TotalyMeow wrote:I do wonder what good the prohibition of gun ownership is doing in Europe if it's not actually stopping people from owning guns.

It is incredibly hard to buy or own a gun in Europe. America has at least 10 to 20 times the amount of gun deaths as European countries per capita. This is why gun prohibition is good and will eventually come to America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wo ... -data3.jpg

Darwoth wrote:when i was a kid my grandfather (whom fought the japanese in the pacific and was at okinawa when **** went down) told me that europe was doomed because they lost to many of their alpha males in the wars and that the genepool there was irreparably damaged as a result.

Your grandfather was an idiot and had absolutely no idea how genetic population mechanics or cultural sociology work.

Darwoth wrote:youtube has once again censored the video i linked, here it is with the audio in tact.

The reason YouTube keeps taking this video down is because it was made by a neo-fascist group from Europe.

ToorimaKun wrote:but people these days are really dumb.... EVERY muslim controlled country has "extremists" killing people on both sides.

getting rid of guns will not stop violence....plus they are using explosives too.... there was WAR BEFORE guns were even invented.

People don't understand that what's happening in the middle east isn't a war between extremists and governments. It's between international allied groups and a war for religious supremacy in the middle east. There are so many factions that it's hard to understand but what we are really seeing over there is an Iranian backed movement throughout the Middle East (with partial support of Syria by Russia) fighting a Religious extremist movement funded through Gulf-State Wahhabbi mosques and a free flow of wealth and people from the rich gulf states. We also see the Old-Order Pan-Arabia stabilizing alliance between the authoritarian Arabic regimes like Saudi Arabia and Egypt supporting other authoritarian factions within the Arab world such as Pro-Government forces in Yemen, Khalifa Haftar in Libya, the Algerian military government and others. Other small factions like Turkey supporting the Free Syrian Army and Turkmen groups within Syria, moderate countries like Jordan, Tunisia, or the Kurds turn this entire region into chaos when viewed from above.

There is no ready or easy solution.

This is probably the best solution I've heard so far: http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/homelan ... about-isis

A 200,000 man multi-national armed force stationed there indefinitely to protect 200,000 doctors and 200,000 arabic speaking teachers to combat the Koran-only education most of them receive now. It seems like the current Syrian refugees would make absolutely excellent teachers and doctors for the region if we were able to train them in Europe for the job. It would cost trillions but we're already spending trillions in Irag and Afganistan now.

Or...

We can keep hitting reset. We can hit reset in Afganisatan. We can hit reset in Iraq over and over. These things cost us as much as the teachers and doctors and helping the region in other ways. We can either keep hitting reset like we're doing now or put forth a 'Marshall Plan' for the region based on Education and Infrastructural Economic Reform.

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Tomki wrote:Berlin and Paris again if nothing will be done to this barbarian invasion.


but it isn't an invasion... they are freely letting these people in because "it is their moral obligation to help them"

Taipion wrote:To make this clear, as many stated here, muslim would be "silently" outnumbering the europeans in no time anyways, so why raise public hatred against them? How is this in their interest?


the muslims are pushing for changes in the laws....
it might be a few years... but at some point im sure the argument will come about that for examples:
"if people weren't wondering around drunk at night, this wouldn't have happened to them"
or
"if these woman were not dressed so provocatively then they wouldn't have been raped"

and so on...... it is already too late to try and kick them out..... so the muslims will start to influence the european laws... and im sure it wont be pretty.

National Laws would always prevent this from happening just like National laws stop local Christian extremist laws here in the United States. Whenever you see Christian Politicians trying to enforce their beliefs through anti-abortion laws or raising the cross or posting the 10 commandments on public property then you see the National laws supersede them after lawsuits and court battles.

Muslims do NOT outnumber Europeans in any country, they do have majority populations in some places and within certain cities throughout Europe. The entire population of all of the Middle East is only around 50% of Europe's not including European Russia.

We're talking about a possibility of a maximum of 10's of millions of refugees in a region that has 700 million people.

Darwoth wrote:in another ten years if that france and germany will be muslim countries, one need only look at the idiotic responses of the french and germans in this thread to see why.

This is a statistical impossibility, a lie and a race-baiting exaggeration of the most idiotic type. You could have ever single person from Syria, Irag and Afganistan move to them and they'd still be majority "European."

France is still 85% Christian and around 5-10% Muslim as of 2014 and they're still the European country with the most Muslims. Germany is only around 4% Muslim right now.

In conclusion;

Don't be suckered into the views of these racial political fascists like Darwoth. Europe is not going to be majority Muslim anytime soon. ISIS/Terrorists are/to Nazi's as Muslims are/to Christians we must fight both the Nazi's and ISIS to keep our world free.
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Re: Paris

Postby Darwoth » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:19 pm

oh gee look, claeyt thinks i read the first syllable of his 20 pages of rambling nonsense pasted from some democratic underground type site.


sorry *****, muslims are murderous scum and such is ingrained in their entire belief system. hopefully the next time one of them detonates themselves it will be in proximity to a bunch of the moron liberals that enable them.
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Re: Paris

Postby Dallane » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:29 pm

Today I learned Cleaty supports terrorist.

He spent the last month typing up a post no one is going to read :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Dallane wrote:No one cares stop trying to bring this thread back alive with your *****.

Back to life? The last post was just 2 days ago.


It was essentially dead until you wanted to start your toxic posting again.
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Re: Paris

Postby black89hawk » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:47 pm

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