Paris

[AcidSpiral]

I can't help it. He provided Wikipedia as a reliable source. Must initiate lols.

"Intentional homicide does not include all intentional killing; the difference is usually in the organization of the killing. Individuals or small groups usually commit homicide, whereas killing in armed conflict is usually committed by fairly cohesive groups of up to several hundred members and is thus usually excluded."

Quoted from your other source. Obviously they don't teach you to do thorough research in your poor third world country.

Get trolled you troll.

[TotalyMeow]

Is there any moderator on this forum ? Because I never read so many racist bull ***** in a same topic.

Hmmm... offended? Report. I have had only one report on this thread (not from you) for offensive content and I promptly edited it. And as for 'racism' there hasn't really been much. The Islamic religion is not in any way a 'race', it is a religion. It is not a trait of birth, it is a life choice. The difference here is significant because you can't choose your birth, but you can choose who you want to be and how you want to act.

[ToorimaKun]

Then they earned it. Do you not support our troops?

You keep saying this but I have never saw this. Can you provide proof?

i have a friend pretty high ranked in the military.... not sure if there is any public post or any thing about it.

I can be sure that the military is not recruiting directly out of the middle east. There is no need to do so.

they are, and yes there is NO NEED to do so..... they are saying it is to fulfill some sort of diversity requirement the military has... or some such crap.
here is a link recruiting foreigners:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-army-expands-immigrant-recruitment-program-1428529606
not the same program i am talking about but recruiting foreigners DOSE happen.

Because I never read so many racist bull ***** in a same topic.

you are what is wrong with white people.....

And as for 'racism' there hasn't really been much. The Islamic religion is not in any way a 'race', it is a religion. It is not a trait of birth, it is a life choice. The difference here is significant because you can't choose your birth, but you can choose who you want to be and how you want to act.

i actually agree with one of the devas today.
good job using common sense today.

[pietrko]

I can't help it. He provided Wikipedia as a reliable source. Must initiate lols.

You think that Darwoth posts are more realiable?
Wikipedia can be realiable source (with each solid article, not every one is solid ofc - comes the reference to actual research - check the bottom of the article).

"Intentional homicide does not include all intentional killing; the difference is usually in the organization of the killing. Individuals or small groups usually commit homicide, whereas killing in armed conflict is usually committed by fairly cohesive groups of up to several hundred members and is thus usually excluded."

Quoted from your other source. Obviously they don't teach you to do thorough research in your poor third world country.

Well, this is precisely what I wanted - to exclude armed conflicts (i'm not sure if it excludes terrorist attacks too, the definition does not state it directly- it doesn't even matter).
Terrorists attacks are minor part of the death toll so i neglected them (http://www.vox.com/2015/10/1/9437187/ob ... ism-deaths) and instead showed the impact of gun ownership laws on other crimes (this is something we know, which can be measured properly, not something that a few "muslim loving" guys can came up, after a couple of beers)
Correlation between deaths due to terrorist attacks and gun ownership is harder to measure.

My only sin was an assumption ( in agreement with data) that i didn't mention explicitly.

, you pointed out mistakes but no kind word about rendneck joke? c'mon, i'm tryin!

[TotalyMeow]

the impact of gun ownership laws on other crimes (this is something we know, which can be measured properly

I don't know about that. You compared murder per 100k of US and of Europe and claimed that gun ownership is the correlation. But how much is gun ownership the correlation and how much is the fact that Europe is a more... bland place with a lot less racial and ethnic tensions between groups (or it was, lets see how the subject of this thread changes things). Also, the European countries are much smaller than the US, which has free travel through all states and a citizen of one is a citizen of another, leading to mass migrations from state to state based on economic fluctuations which can stir up trouble between diverse groups, not to mention the fact that a large country is harder to govern efficiently. And then there are possible correlations between murder and economy, which ours hasn't been the best lately. And I don't even know what else. There are so many factors that can increase or decrease the incidence of murder that you can't just say, "Gun ownership, obviously", and be right.

I really do think that with the large influx of these Arabic people with a mostly foreign religion and culture, you're about to see a big uptick in crime and murder; it'll start showing up in statistics soon unless your governments are lying / start lying about the numbers. And not necessarily because they are 'bad' people, but because people who are too different just don't get along well as groups no matter how much you may claim you want it to be so.

[jesi]

the impact of gun ownership laws on other crimes (this is something we know, which can be measured properly

I really do think that with the large influx of these Arabic people with a mostly foreign religion and culture, you're about to see a big uptick in crime and murder; it'll start showing up in statistics soon unless your governments are lying / start lying about the numbers. And not necessarily because they are 'bad' people, but because people who are too different just don't get along well as groups no matter how much you may claim you want it to be so.

Umm. . . , France already has a large muslim population (10% in 2010 according to a Pew study). This has little or nothing to due with the current refugee crisis in Syria and Iraq. Reportedly most refugees want to get to England or Germany rather than France as France has a reputation of being inhospitable to muslims going back a long way. As for uptick in crime and murder. France's murder rate is pretty stable at 1.0 per 100,000 according to a 2013 UN study. So, yeah it does not seem that a muslim influx causes a rise in the murder rate here.

[Rubberduckbandit]

the impact of gun ownership laws on other crimes (this is something we know, which can be measured properly

I really do think that with the large influx of these Arabic people with a mostly foreign religion and culture, you're about to see a big uptick in crime and murder; it'll start showing up in statistics soon unless your governments are lying / start lying about the numbers. And not necessarily because they are 'bad' people, but because people who are too different just don't get along well as groups no matter how much you may claim you want it to be so.

Umm. . . , France already has a large muslim population (10% in 2010 according to a Pew study). This has little or nothing to due with the current refugee crisis in Syria and Iraq. Reportedly most refugees want to get to England or Germany rather than France as France has a reputation of being inhospitable to muslims going back a long way. As for uptick in crime and murder. France's murder rate is pretty stable at 1.0 per 100,000 according to a 2013 UN study. So, yeah it does not seem that a muslim influx causes a rise in the murder rate here.

Your mother has been known to give numerous blowjobs to 97% of the local refugees (according to the Paris census act of 2015) in 29% of these acts your father has been shown to allow, this cucking to happen according to a Un study of 2015 as well. It's easy to pull up "facts" with no solid evidence, I really don't know why people defend Muslims, even if they aren't bombing cities, or beheading people, their backward ass way of thinking with cutting of a female clitoris, among other things isn't exactly humane. Idc if 1 out of every 10 Muslims is okay it's not worth getting beheaded over just to avoid hurting their feelings. One day i will find this snack-bar these Muslims always shout about.

[TotalyMeow]

Umm. . . , France already has a large muslim population (10% in 2010 according to a Pew study). This has little or nothing to due with the current refugee crisis in Syria and Iraq. Reportedly most refugees want to get to England or Germany rather than France as France has a reputation of being inhospitable to muslims going back a long way. As for uptick in crime and murder. France's murder rate is pretty stable at 1.0 per 100,000 according to a 2013 UN study. So, yeah it does not seem that a muslim influx causes a rise in the murder rate here.

Hmm... I had actually looked this up myself earlier and found one claim that France is 5% Muslim, that being the religion, whether or not that coincided with a particular ethnic group, the site didn't say. The PEW site said 7.5% and that that is also the largest percentage in Western Europe, which doesn't really agree with your claim of Muslims being unwelcome, that site also did not include anything about ethnic groups. The US CIA said between 5 and 10% in France. So, you can see statistics are a bit variable and also less than you think.

I had originally searched to see the percent of Arabic people in Europe, but mostly it just assumes I want 'Muslims', hmm... The total I got from Wiki, the only one that actually said 'Arab', was something less than 1% overall so it seems most Muslims in France and other parts of Europe up until now are Caucasian? Your same ethnic group?

[jesi]

Umm. . . , France already has a large muslim population (10% in 2010 according to a Pew study). This has little or nothing to due with the current refugee crisis in Syria and Iraq. Reportedly most refugees want to get to England or Germany rather than France as France has a reputation of being inhospitable to muslims going back a long way. As for uptick in crime and murder. France's murder rate is pretty stable at 1.0 per 100,000 according to a 2013 UN study. So, yeah it does not seem that a muslim influx causes a rise in the murder rate here.

Hmm... I had actually looked this up myself earlier and found one claim that France is 5% Muslim, that being the religion, whether or not that coincided with a particular ethnic group, the site didn't say. The PEW site said 7.5% and that that is also the largest percentage in Western Europe, which doesn't really agree with your claim of Muslims being unwelcome, that site also did not include anything about ethnic groups. The US CIA said between 5 and 10% in France. So, you can see statistics are a bit variable and also less than you think.

I had originally searched to see the percent of Arabic people in Europe, but mostly it just assumes I want 'Muslims', hmm... The total I got from Wiki, the only one that actually said 'Arab', was something less than 1% overall so it seems most Muslims in France and other parts of Europe up until now are Caucasian? Your same ethnic group?

One important reason the statistics vary is because French law prohibits the Government or private entities in France from collecting ethnic and racial statistics on its population. The majority of people being classified as muslim in France, whatever the source, are coming from the Maghreb (i.e. northern Africa) since that area was colonized by France. France has a lengthy (more than 100 years) history of importing foreign workers from its former colonies although that slowed considerably after 1980 or so. So the muslim population of France has always been significant.

With respect to muslims being unwelcome, there has been a large uptick in anti-muslim rhetoric in the last ten years or so tied closely with the rise of the Front Nationale and the right-leaning UMP (now called the republicans). That, in turn, is largely considered (by the talking heads I listen to) as a result of the poor economy, the rise in unemployment and the consequential cut back in Government benefits as France tries to stay within the budget requirements of the European union. However, France has been a xenophobic society for quite some time. Assimilation is the norm, meaning if you want to be accepted in France, you need to act like the French and not hold onto cultural differences, like practicing a different religion.

[HolyLight]

Is there any moderator on this forum ? Because I never read so many racist bull ***** in a same topic.

Hmmm... offended? Report. I have had only one report on this thread (not from you) for offensive content and I promptly edited it. And as for 'racism' there hasn't really been much. The Islamic religion is not in any way a 'race', it is a religion. It is not a trait of birth, it is a life choice. The difference here is significant because you can't choose your birth, but you can choose who you want to be and how you want to act.

I really do think that with the large influx of these Arabic people with a mostly foreign religion and culture, you're about to see a big uptick in crime and murder; it'll start showing up in statistics soon unless your governments are lying / start lying about the numbers. And not necessarily because they are 'bad' people, but because people who are too different just don't get along well as groups no matter how much you may claim you want it to be so.

The UK goverment/police apparently already massivly hide crimes commited by muslim/paki groups all over the country, most of them are rape/kidnapping/human trafficing / slave related, most of the statistics are written off and more. Did you know in the UK, a Muslim Pedo / sex offender does NOT have to attend rehabilitation as it is an infringement of their religion ? Totally outragious. Its hard to find this info as it is not generally advertised to the public but it can be found if you go sifting around and demanding the freedom of information. Things are already massivly covered up, the problem will arise when it all spills over the top, i strongly feel within a few decades there will be some civil wars inside the current EU.

Did you know there is an estimated 10,000 ~ 13,000 Slaves in the UK ?

Well we had to Evac one of our larger shopping centers in the UK yesterday (Bluewater), due to a bomb threat/suspect package (I mentioned that our goverments has put out warnings about this days ago in this same thread), It has been announced as well that large threats have been made to attack the UK on black friday, and some places are talking about not going forward with the sales due to said threats. If this happens daesh will win.

Lets see what happens