About fruits

Ask and answer any and all questions pertaining to Salem's game-play.

Re: About fruits

Postby Dallane » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:46 am

Taipion wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Being so difficult to obtain and so quick to disappear means we could make them a bit OP when eaten alone.

Excuse me, but they are quite UP in comparison to anything worth cooking.


Also the purgative, this is the only real use of fruits, not in gluttony but in the process of raising humors fast, as the purgative reduces the F&F debuff.


You keep saying it's not part of gluttony but it in fact is. Also not using excess fruits so they don't rot is just foolish. You get a high gain with zero effort. I don't think you have a high humor character.
Please click this link for a better salem forum experience

TotalyMeow wrote: Claeyt's perspective of Salem and what it's about is very different from the devs and in many cases is completely the opposite of what we believe.
User avatar
Dallane
Moderator
 
Posts: 15195
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:00 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby Taipion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:50 am

Dallane wrote:
Taipion wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Being so difficult to obtain and so quick to disappear means we could make them a bit OP when eaten alone.

Excuse me, but they are quite UP in comparison to anything worth cooking.


Also the purgative, this is the only real use of fruits, not in gluttony but in the process of raising humors fast, as the purgative reduces the F&F debuff.


You keep saying it's not part of gluttony but it in fact is. Also not using excess fruits so they don't rot is just foolish. You get a high gain with zero effort. I don't think you have a high humor character.


*Yawn*

What a boring troll post.

You don't even realize you always post the same, do you?!

I am mildly bored by your valiant attempts though, count that as a... uhhmm.... whatever...

Yes, the purgative is NOT used INSIDE a gluttony session, and the fruits themself are sub-par to anything worth cooking.

Ah and you need to make and maintain a huge plantation of fruit trees and bee skeps, also do your gluttony sessions according to when which fruits are available, limiting and much work, so you are wrong in everything you said.
Last edited by Taipion on Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
Need something? Here is my Shop (Including some useful info for new/returning players at the bottom of the first post)
Taipion
 
Posts: 2662
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:12 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby TotalyMeow » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:52 am

He's trying to tell you they don't need cooking, they are ready to eat. That makes them worth using in Gluttony if you have them to spare. Otherwise, they are also good for purgatives. Please stop trolling Help, Taipon.
Community Manager for Mortal Moments Inc.

Icon wrote:This isn't Farmville with fighting, its Mortal Kombat with corn.
User avatar
TotalyMeow
 
Posts: 3782
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:14 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby Taipion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:55 am

TotalyMeow wrote:He's trying to tell you they don't need cooking, they are ready to eat. That makes them worth using in Gluttony if you have them to spare. Otherwise, they are also good for purgatives. Please stop trolling Help, Taipon.


You must mix something up, I am not dallane, I dont troll.

If you want serious gluttony you need to look at a certain point/item value, those fruits are, well, not thaaat good at that, and 50/50 means you can only ever use like 2-3 before you need a restore food with jalapenos, they are just not worth using, that's it.

If you are below 200 humors, then well, they probably won't hurt, but they are not suprerrior by any means.
Need something? Here is my Shop (Including some useful info for new/returning players at the bottom of the first post)
Taipion
 
Posts: 2662
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:12 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby Dallane » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:57 am

If you have extra after making a potion it is FOOLISH to let them rot. You have a free high humor food that will be wasted if you don't eat it. You are already going to reset your food, you might as well use them.
Please click this link for a better salem forum experience

TotalyMeow wrote: Claeyt's perspective of Salem and what it's about is very different from the devs and in many cases is completely the opposite of what we believe.
User avatar
Dallane
Moderator
 
Posts: 15195
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:00 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby Taipion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:06 am

Dallane wrote:If you have extra after making a potion it is FOOLISH to let them rot. You have a free high humor food that will be wasted if you don't eat it. You are already going to reset your food, you might as well use them.


Wrong again, you are not forced to restore fruit food, you might be even out of jalapenos.
Putting 10 in you inventory for a gluttony sessions will then likely end up having 6-7 or them with 25% or less, which is a waste of space that might be needed for better food to get the most out of your gluttony set.
15-50 base is not huge, not even at high %, and that's only for the good ones (those used in the purgative), the others are only ever useful as fertilizers.


[edit:] You might not be good at math and you might not have any high character, but isn't it obvious?
You have your current humors and the points of your gluttony set on the one hand. (That is, what you want to achieve within one session.)
And you have the average points/item and the limitation of carry capacity and 1024 inventory slots + feasting table on the other hand.
Therefore you need to optimize it after a certain combination of current humors and gluttony set points, and fruits don't cut it there anymore.
Need something? Here is my Shop (Including some useful info for new/returning players at the bottom of the first post)
Taipion
 
Posts: 2662
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:12 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby TotalyMeow » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:26 am

Aaaaaanyway. Yes, fruits have no recipes associated with them YET, but their stats are pretty good for a stand alone food with no preparation required. Or, they can be used as purgatives. Or, they can be used as fertilizers.

Which one you should do is clearly a hotly debated topic, but let's not get too carried away in Help, okay?
Community Manager for Mortal Moments Inc.

Icon wrote:This isn't Farmville with fighting, its Mortal Kombat with corn.
User avatar
TotalyMeow
 
Posts: 3782
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:14 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby Dallane » Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:45 am

Taipion wrote:
Dallane wrote:If you have extra after making a potion it is FOOLISH to let them rot. You have a free high humor food that will be wasted if you don't eat it. You are already going to reset your food, you might as well use them.


Wrong again, you are not forced to restore fruit food, you might be even out of jalapenos.
Putting 10 in you inventory for a gluttony sessions will then likely end up having 6-7 or them with 25% or less, which is a waste of space that might be needed for better food to get the most out of your gluttony set.
15-50 base is not huge, not even at high %, and that's only for the good ones (those used in the purgative), the others are only ever useful as fertilizers.


[edit:] You might not be good at math and you might not have any high character, but isn't it obvious?
You have your current humors and the points of your gluttony set on the one hand. (That is, what you want to achieve within one session.)
And you have the average points/item and the limitation of carry capacity and 1024 inventory slots + feasting table on the other hand.
Therefore you need to optimize it after a certain combination of current humors and gluttony set points, and fruits don't cut it there anymore.


This is how I know you don't have a high humor character.

Wasting a slot? If there is a max # of items you can carry you are never going to reach that with how much food weighs. Fruit doesn't weight that much and you aren't going to have that much left over once you make potions. I don't understand why you keep fighting about something so simple that helps you out in the long run. You don't use fruit as a staple glutton food. You use them like you would bajels or smoked meat. You just top yourself off without using up meat or bread group. How is that hard to grasp?

Steps to glutton:
1. Plant fruits to make potions
2. Make said potions from the fruit
3. Use the left over fruit in your normal glutton session as a filler or top off food.
4. Restore food group if/when you need
5. Use your potions made from fruit to lower timer
6. if timer == 0:
have another glutton session
else:
wait for your much lower FF timer to come up for a new session
7. enjoy having a high humor character using all available options

You are welcome
Please click this link for a better salem forum experience

TotalyMeow wrote: Claeyt's perspective of Salem and what it's about is very different from the devs and in many cases is completely the opposite of what we believe.
User avatar
Dallane
Moderator
 
Posts: 15195
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:00 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby Taipion » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:12 am

Dallane wrote:
Taipion wrote:
Dallane wrote:If you have extra after making a potion it is FOOLISH to let them rot. You have a free high humor food that will be wasted if you don't eat it. You are already going to reset your food, you might as well use them.


Wrong again, you are not forced to restore fruit food, you might be even out of jalapenos.
Putting 10 in you inventory for a gluttony sessions will then likely end up having 6-7 or them with 25% or less, which is a waste of space that might be needed for better food to get the most out of your gluttony set.
15-50 base is not huge, not even at high %, and that's only for the good ones (those used in the purgative), the others are only ever useful as fertilizers.


[edit:] You might not be good at math and you might not have any high character, but isn't it obvious?
You have your current humors and the points of your gluttony set on the one hand. (That is, what you want to achieve within one session.)
And you have the average points/item and the limitation of carry capacity and 1024 inventory slots + feasting table on the other hand.
Therefore you need to optimize it after a certain combination of current humors and gluttony set points, and fruits don't cut it there anymore.


This is how I know you don't have a high humor character.

Wasting a slot? If there is a max # of items you can carry you are never going to reach that with how much food weighs. Fruit doesn't weight that much and you aren't going to have that much left over once you make potions. I don't understand why you keep fighting about something so simple that helps you out in the long run. You don't use fruit as a staple glutton food. You use them like you would bajels or smoked meat. You just top yourself off without using up meat or bread group. How is that hard to grasp?

Steps to glutton:
1. Plant fruits to make potions
2. Make said potions from the fruit
3. Use the left over fruit in your normal glutton session as a filler or top off food.
4. Restore food group if/when you need
5. Use your potions made from fruit to lower timer
6. if timer == 0:
have another glutton session
else:
wait for your much lower FF timer to come up for a new session
7. enjoy having a high humor character using all available options

You are welcome


Dallane, please, really, don't troll help!
Mod or not, that is starting to get silly.
(Either that, or you have no idea of what you are talking about, or your highest char is 200 or so.)

a.) You can easily fit 1024 food items for gluttony into your inventory, despite what you said, if you can't, it might be because you are either too low in humors or you are doing it wrong.

b.) No, unlike what you said, you will have a lot of spare fruits when you aim at making potions from them, due to the super random nature of getting them, and the exact combination you need.
Whereas you can only use ~2-3 fruits without restore, there is no restore for fruits, except food made with jalapenos as variable bellpepper!

c.) The point where you compare fruits to bajgiels and smoked meat gives away that you are either trolling or you don't know what you are talking about, smoked meat is still nice for lower level gluttony, though not that good once you are higher due to the low points/item value, bajgiels are nice, but the point is, that both are easily restoreable where fruits are not.

Fruits have:
- a horrible 50%/50% chance AND are difficult to restore
- a too high span from min to max to be reliable
- too low gluttony value to be really useful
- off the tons of leftover fruit from making potions you may likely use only 2-3, that is not much
Need something? Here is my Shop (Including some useful info for new/returning players at the bottom of the first post)
Taipion
 
Posts: 2662
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:12 pm

Re: About fruits

Postby Dallane » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:01 pm

Taipion wrote:Dallane, please, really, don't troll help!
Mod or not, that is starting to get silly.


Do this again in help and you are going to get a ban. I'm not trolling at all. You are in fact trolling help(again) by denying that fruits are useful for gluttony. Please remember that not investing in them now will severely hurt you in the long run once recipes are added to them.

Taipion wrote:(Either that, or you have no idea of what you are talking about, or your highest char is 200 or so.)

As someone with multiple characters over 600 you are a idiot.

Taipion wrote:a.) You can easily fit 1024 food items for gluttony into your inventory, despite what you said, if you can't, it might be because you are either too low in humors or you are doing it wrong.

You might need to readjust what you are eating

Taipion wrote:b.) No, unlike what you said, you will have a lot of spare fruits when you aim at making potions from them, due to the super random nature of getting them, and the exact combination you need.
Whereas you can only use ~2-3 fruits without restore, there is no restore for fruits, except food made with jalapenos as variable bellpepper!

Jalapenos are easy to get. 2-3 is still a free food you don't have to prepair.

Taipion wrote:c.) The point where you compare fruits to bajgiels and smoked meat gives away that you are either trolling or you don't know what you are talking about, smoked meat is still nice for lower level gluttony, though not that good once you are higher due to the low points/item value, bajgiels are nice, but the point is, that both are easily restoreable where fruits are not.

I see you don't have the capacity to understand what exactly I'm saying. YOU HAVE A FREE FOOD YOU DONT NEED TO PREPARE THAT CAN TOP OFF A STAT WITH ZERO PROBLEMS

Taipion wrote:Fruits have:
- a horrible 50%/50% chance AND are difficult to restore
- a too high span from min to max to be reliable
- too low gluttony value to be really useful
- off the tons of leftover fruit from making potions you may likely use only 2-3, that is not much


-Only difficult for people who don't know how to garden
-Use them to top off
-again use them to top off
-ITS A FREE FOOD YOU DONT HAVE TO PREPARE. Time is a large investment in this game. If you are only going to use 2-3 then why are you arguing that they are hard to restore when you are going to only have a certain ammount left.

You really need to just stop. You are at cleaty levels of stupid atm
Please click this link for a better salem forum experience

TotalyMeow wrote: Claeyt's perspective of Salem and what it's about is very different from the devs and in many cases is completely the opposite of what we believe.
User avatar
Dallane
Moderator
 
Posts: 15195
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:00 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Help!

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests