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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Heffernan » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:46 pm

Dallane wrote:
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and Various peacekeeping missions and exercises.


funny how you americans describe your Wars, murders and bloodsheds as "peacekeeping" ever though that noone in the world wants your "peacekeeping" ?


You are aware that Germany does the EXACT same thing America does right with spying and deploying troops? Germany was just caught spying on everyone.

People also do want "our" peacekeeping. Take off your tin foil hat.


wrong noone does, why do you think most countries in the world hate america?
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Dallane » Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:53 pm

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wrong noone does, why do you think most countries in the world hate america?


I see that you ignored everything I said. Most countries in fact don't hate America. Everything you have said as to why you hate America means that you also hate your own country since they do the exact same thing.

Pro tip: Where America is peacekeeping so is a majority of NATO countries along with UN forces.

Please grow up and understand how the world works.
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Kralith » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:15 pm

The world does not work well, it has never worked well since humans take them over.
And you have to understand how the world workes, but it is different from how the human world works.
If you understand how humans world works, you have to notice that none of the countries in the world act really peaceful.
The most of us not even make peaceful doings in the little worlds like neighborhoods or communities, like this forum here.
How can do it well a whole country then?
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Heffernan » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:32 pm

Kralith wrote:The world does not work well, it has never worked well since humans take them over.
And you have to understand how the world workes, but it is different from how the human world works.
If you understand how humans world works, you have to notice that none of the countries in the world act really peaceful.
The most of us not even make peaceful doings in the little worlds like neighborhoods or communities, like this forum here.
How can do it well a whole country then?


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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Flame » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:52 pm

99% of the anti american statement is lies and love stories


Let's do some random math. According with the "Every States need to tell us lies in order to be free to rule" we can then use our brain to think a little:
How much "Anti-america" sentences there are out there? A bunch. How many of those are in history book? Not so few. But how many are told us from standard media like Tv, Radio or Newspaper? Almost none.

Ok. If the state needs to lie to us, then he's not going to tell us those things, then media are an half proof that those things are possibily true.
Does this mean that internet is always right? No. Others gain from internet lies, so lies are also there. Sometime, when nobody sais something, means that it doesn't really exist. But that's not enough to be sure, though, so let's think more.

Is true that a bunch of badly armed rebels can be destroyed easily with the army technology we have now? (For example, a gps that CAN'T MISS more than 1 or 2 cm, making missiles extremely precises. Fact.)
Sure it can be destroyed. They can easily hit a single man and a single building with drones or missiles. So why there are so many civil victims? (For example, that hospital that have been attacked few weeks ago, even if there were our medics in it. We are a country Pro America, so these news Anti-America are highly probably true.)
Why america should gain from this? We have always to think that there is not a BAD GUY behind this. There must be a reason.
And then, you can investigate further.

What form of government is actually ruling that country that america is "peace-keeping"?
If it is communist / not-american one, then they aren't fighting Isis or any other random group there. They are trying to destabilize the local government, so they are literally destroying the state, piece to piece, in order to destroy the local society and leadpeople to ask for a new one, which will be the america one.
Is this possible?
The answer is in the History. Go back and check all the last wars america have done and see what happens immediately after. 90% had an election that turned that country into an american colony, taking the political system and the economy system. This is a form of conquest, a Not-Shocking one. No one of us will never care to see what happens to those countries once america says "we are done here".
You should then check back the last years.

Back to the civil death:
This can happens for two reason, depending on the country. The first one is that they are allied with Arabia, so often they gain from helping the arabia sistematic conquering and genocides. I can suppose they gain Oil and Profit.
The other possibility is that they gain political control over that country that have oil and/or was too much near the Brics or Russia, which are trying to compete with America after 40 years of american monopoly.
Kill people and public buildings is good to make the rebels grow, and rebels are well payed to, then, rule the country in the way america finds best.
This, sometime, doesn't work and then groups far for america ideals like Isis appears, but who knows, there's always a chance to Gain from this situation.

At this point i could say that the notice is false or true, no problem with it. I DON'T NEED that notice, 'cuz History and Logic works much better, so yeah, normal people IS now getting killed, along with other random soldiers, because america is not there to bring peace. The more those country will suffer, the more the people will ask for a new leader.
And, like magic, the new leader will appear. A new, sparkling, america-friend leader brougth up from rebels.
And then, peace there will be. When the conquest is done.
Until tht leader will not start to flee from america influence... that is what's happening periodically.
(Someone have said "Rambo that helps the braves talibans that are searching freedom for theyr country? Ops. We then fought them few years after, calling them terrorist. D:)
But the truth is that we don't care. In a couple of months, all those names like Isis, the country names, etc etc, will be just a foggy memory of something we never really cared. 'Cuz we don't have/read/study modern history.
We don't remember our life.
That's simply wonderfully perfect. A whole population that don't remember what happened 6 years ago. Is a strong weapon.


If this worked for so many years (Really, search a bit for Arab Spring, hoping you call it this way) why should they drop this efficent strategy?
Civilians deaths are definitely something that must die, to accomplish the conquest.

There is no reason to waste that much money on a country, if it's not worth it. Let's say it clear, nobody cares of other countries and nobody does war to "free" the people.

And, holy s*hit, this guy ruled for 10 years in a country that have noting to give eceonomically, and the great peacefull america didn't cared at all!
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Are we serious? This crazy man brought back the EMPIRE society, with all the royal things and rules and... america still talks about "war for democracy and freedom"?? XDDD
Hell. That eagle! XDD Omg.

And, if you want, read a little about Pol Pot. That's a nice candy too.

Don't think about lies.. just use logic and history to see the possible true.

You want to find the "enemy"? Pretty much everyone is the enemy, 'cuz probably no one of them is caring about your ideal, but who knows. Maybe reading books, history and finally knowing things, you can find someone that you will like more than the others.


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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Heffernan » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:47 pm

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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Inotdead » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:18 am

Heffernan wrote:funny how you americans describe your Wars, murders and bloodsheds as "peacekeeping" ever though that noone in the world wants your "peacekeeping" ?


I know, right? Because NATO totally wasn't involved in Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Libya. It's all dem filthy 'muricans!
We all know, that when EU opposes revolution in some other country it's peacekeeping, but when US does that they are warmongers and when Putin tries the same he is apparently the new Hitler.
You tell them!
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby An_Infinity_of_War » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:31 am

Dallane wrote:
Heffernan wrote:
wrong noone does, why do you think most countries in the world hate america?


I see that you ignored everything I said. Most countries in fact don't hate America. Everything you have said as to why you hate America means that you also hate your own country since they do the exact same thing.

Pro tip: Where America is peacekeeping so is a majority of NATO countries along with UN forces.

Please grow up and understand how the world works.


He probably thinks this is how it goes.

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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Rubberduckbandit » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:22 am

One day we will be as peaceul, and advanced as north korea, one can only dream.
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby HolyLight » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:38 pm

An_Infinity_of_War wrote:He probably thinks this is how it goes.
https://8ch.net/pol/src/1443552070391.webm Confirmed currently happening in Ukraine. ¦]
Always have a hard time clearing out that damn outpost. Never bring enough artifacts to dodge em' bullets.


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