Putin and ISIS

[Trismegistus]

"dey be bad. dey live der. bad tings happen der = good"

Eventually it all boils down to will to exterminate those you don't agree with / are afraid of. Literally every case of genocide in history of human kind is based on this type of thinking. But hey, all is fine as long as it's them dying and not me.

You are not that different from ISIS

I agree. This is what it boils down to. Call it by whatever name it inhabits in the place and time of your choosing. It is basic social animal in-group/out-group behavior. The biggest problem I have with it is that it is hard to argue that this behavior is not valid. The problem is probably more along the lines of that some people are born with no empathy, and they are a problem for the rest of us. How do we find them, and what do we do with them?

Hypothetical...If your wife/husband and your two children and ten other people you don't know were stuck in a house fire, who would you save first? If you answer "normally", how far will you take this favoritism?

[Procne]

Guess again, not even close.

And there I thought only Russian propaganda media outlets shouted about those nazis in Ukraine funded by western countries.

I must say I liked the most this article in one russian newspaper showing some pictures, taken in one the western Europe cities, of large crowd of people waving their flags. The article said the pictures depict nazi anti-russian manifestation, backed up by european conspirators, in one of the ukrainian cities.

[Taipion]

"dey be bad. dey live der. bad tings happen der = good"

Eventually it all boils down to will to exterminate those you don't agree with / are afraid of. Literally every case of genocide in history of human kind is based on this type of thinking. But hey, all is fine as long as it's them dying and not me.

You are not that different from ISIS

I agree. This is what it boils down to. Call it by whatever name it inhabits in the place and time of your choosing. It is basic social animal in-group/out-group behavior. The biggest problem I have with it is that it is hard to argue that this behavior is not valid. The problem is probably more along the lines of that some people are born with no empathy, and they are a problem for the rest of us. How do we find them, and what do we do with them?

Hypothetical...If your wife/husband and your two children and ten other people you don't know were stuck in a house fire, who would you save first? If you answer "normally", how far will you take this favoritism?

It is not a question of who you favour, neither of who you dislike or if you feel empathy.

As I stated before, if people live bad lifes, they tend to do bad things and fall for bad people and bad ideas.
- poor
- uneducated
- no perspective
Those 3 things you need to fight, not the people who suffer from them.

[Taipion]

Guess again, not even close.

And there I thought only Russian propaganda media outlets shouted about those nazis in Ukraine funded by western countries.

I must say I liked the most this article in one russian newspaper showing some pictures, taken in one the western Europe cities, of large crowd of people waving their flags. The article said the pictures depict nazi anti-russian manifestation, backed up by european conspirators, in one of the ukrainian cities.

I don't know what you are referring to, but that kinda sounds like fake stuff meant to discredit Russia.
What I said is the truth, you may argue that those "nazis" are just nationalists or somewhat-right-wing, but that does not make much of a difference if you look at the result.

Fact is, USA are alone and entirely responsible for the creation of ISIS, the state of the middle east, and then some, so they should pay for it (in cash, not blood, mind you) just as I said.

[Trismegistus]

^^ It seems as though you claim that the US acts of it's own free will while everyone else has no free will and can only react to what the US does with no personal responsibility.

[Taipion]

^^ It seems as though you claim that the US acts of it's own free will while everyone else has no free will and can only react to what the US does with no personal responsibility.

idk whut ya try putin together here...

This accusation is pointless, as is to discuss who really rules what country and really is responsible that country x did y.

[Trismegistus]

^^ It seems as though you claim that the US acts of it's own free will while everyone else has no free will and can only react to what the US does with no personal responsibility.

idk whut ya try putin together here...

This accusation is pointless, as is to discuss who really rules what country and really is responsible that country x did y.

I was just responding to your words.

Fact is, USA are alone and entirely responsible for the creation of ISIS, the state of the middle east, and then some, so they should pay for it (in cash, not blood, mind you) just as I said.

I think the creation of ISIL or more in line with what I said earlier. Some people are "crazy" and will do anything to collect power for I dunno what reason. If you're interested in the creation of ISIL, you should research Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and his relationship with Bin Laden and al Qaeda. If we are to believe the agreed upon narrative, it seems as though when Bin Laden was killed, Mr. Abu here saw his opportunity to move up in the world. Money needs to flow somewhere.

[Procne]

I don't know what you are referring to, but that kinda sounds like fake stuff meant to discredit Russia.

That kinda sounds like something russian propagandist would say

What I said is the truth,

You're saying this in case I had doubts or you?

you may argue that those "nazis" are just nationalists or somewhat-right-wing, but that does not make much of a difference if you look at the result.

Or just people who had enough of being a russian marionette, and did what other post-communist nations did in 80s. Protested and got rid of the russian overlord that was leeching off them for decades

[Tulgarath]

Can't blame the USA for everything. The world wants a policeman. ..someone to come save their ass if they need help, and the rest of the time ***** about them doing their job wrong. Noone else will do it. ..so you get it motivated by government interest, not necessarily the people's.

[Trismegistus]

idk whut ya try putin together here...

My point here is that people, countries, baboons, fathers, ants, mothers, bees, kermit the frogs and most everyone acts in their own self interests and means of survival. The only difference is how far do you widen the circle to include the other live creatures as being in or out of your circle. Is it safe to include someone in your circle who doesn't have you in their circle? If three leantos appear one day outside your town, what do you do?