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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby LOMS » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:02 pm

Procne wrote:Bringing pain and death as a mean to making the world better - you are a ***** genius :roll:


You said that like if I was bringing it by myself or if I suggest to bring it.
Maybe those conflicts do make some people more religious, but I strongly doubt they will be enough radical in their faith to start more wars by themself.
Besides, those religion conflicts also make other category of people think more about how stupid all religions are. Some of them start to talk about loudly, consistently and reasonable, like Richard Dawkins. Educated youth, who listen people like him, most likely will become atheists/agnostics, then radical *religion name* followers.
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Judaism » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:08 pm

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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Syndarn » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:09 pm

Have you guys seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAcLudBbhg - What Normal Muslims Think - And Europe Fails to Understand

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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:13 pm

LOMS wrote:
Procne wrote:Bringing pain and death as a mean to making the world better - you are a ***** genius :roll:


You said that like if I was bringing it by myself or if I suggest to bring it.
I consider people, who wish pain on other unknown people, stupid.
I consider people, who wish pain on other unknown people but are not prepared to do it themselves, stupid and cowardly
Maybe those conflicts do make some people more religious, but I strongly doubt they will be enough radical in their faith to start more wars by themself.

They are regressing. They keep destroying their infrastructure and culture. They devolve into bandits. The war is and will be the only thing they have left.
Besides, those religion conflicts also make other category of people think more about how stupid all religions are. Some of them start to talk about loudly, consistently and reasonable, like Richard Dawkins. Educated youth, who listen people like him, most likely will become atheists/agnostics, then radical *religion name* followers.

Oh ok, so let's have brown people kill each other so that we may understand how stupid religions are.
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby LOMS » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:23 pm

Procne wrote:Oh ok, so let's have brown people kill each other so that we may understand how stupid religions are.

Exactly. ISIS is one more argument against religions, that sane people can use in argues with young religion followers to lead them away of religion *****.
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Dallane » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:31 pm

Procne wrote:
Judaism wrote:Its an interesting topic, I would like to see as much chaos as possible there in the middle-east.

why?


Personally I would love for more action in the middle east so I can land one of those bomb jobs making 700+ a hour over there.
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Taipion » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:42 pm

The USA should take care of it all, it's entirely their fault.
Military intervention alone does nothing, you need to build up the countries until the people there live a life that is good enough to not make them easy prey for religion and such.
For that, the USA need to pay, a lot, they profited all the way so it's only fair.
A halfway educated middle class person with a good life would not blow himself up to kill others, or risk his life willingly by fighting in a religious war, it's that simple.

USA invaded, destroyed and destabilized the whole middle east, now Turkey and Yurop are paying their debt by taking care of the refugees, and Russia is cleaning up the mess they did, that is just wrong.

USA payed 5 billion $ to destabilize Ukraine and bring nazis to power there, forced Russia to intervene to protect their people and their interests.
John Kerry said, after Russia seized Crimea: You can't just invade a foreign country on false pretenses!
(For those who forgot it, USA invaded Iraq after faking evidence of weapons of mass destruction, all for the OIL = Operation Iraqi Liberation.)
(Before that, they worked with Saddam and supported him as long as he was convenient for their goals.)
Made me fall off my couch laughing, honestly, who can take a person... who can take the nation he stands for serious with such a statement?!
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:53 pm

Taipion wrote:The USA should take care of it all, it's entirely their fault.
Military intervention alone does nothing, you need to build up the countries until the people there live a life that is good enough to not make them easy prey for religion and such.
For that, the USA need to pay, a lot, they profited all the way so it's only fair.
A halfway educated middle class person with a good life would not blow himself up to kill others, or risk his life willingly by fighting in a religious war, it's that simple.

USA invaded, destroyed and destabilized the whole middle east, now Turkey and Yurop are paying their debt by taking care of the refugees, and Russia is cleaning up the mess they did, that is just wrong.

USA payed 5 billion $ to destabilize Ukraine and bring nazis to power there, forced Russia to intervene to protect their people and their interests.
John Kerry said, after Russia seized Crimea: You can't just invade a foreign country on false pretenses!
(For those who forgot it, USA invaded Iraq after faking evidence of weapons of mass destruction, all for the OIL = Operation Iraqi Liberation.)
(Before that, they worked with Saddam and supported him as long as he was convenient for their goals.)
Made me fall off my couch laughing, honestly, who can take a person... who can take the nation he stands for serious with such a statement?!

You're Russian, right?
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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Dallane » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:55 pm

Taipion wrote:The USA should take care of it all, it's entirely their fault.
Military intervention alone does nothing, you need to build up the countries until the people there live a life that is good enough to not make them easy prey for religion and such.
For that, the USA need to pay, a lot, they profited all the way so it's only fair.
A halfway educated middle class person with a good life would not blow himself up to kill others, or risk his life willingly by fighting in a religious war, it's that simple.

USA invaded, destroyed and destabilized the whole middle east, now Turkey and Yurop are paying their debt by taking care of the refugees, and Russia is cleaning up the mess they did, that is just wrong.

USA payed 5 billion $ to destabilize Ukraine and bring nazis to power there, forced Russia to intervene to protect their people and their interests.
John Kerry said, after Russia seized Crimea: You can't just invade a foreign country on false pretenses!
(For those who forgot it, USA invaded Iraq after faking evidence of weapons of mass destruction, all for the OIL = Operation Iraqi Liberation.)
(Before that, they worked with Saddam and supported him as long as he was convenient for their goals.)
Made me fall off my couch laughing, honestly, who can take a person... who can take the nation he stands for serious with such a statement?!


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Re: Putin and ISIS

Postby Taipion » Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:01 pm

Procne wrote:You're Russian, right?

Guess again, not even close.

And you?

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