Expeditions

[Lallaith]

i really wanted to like popham, but playing there felt meaningless. i don't like temporary servers and i don't like artificial 'win' conditions. it became less and less fun, even though it was pretty easy to find people to kill and stuff to steal etc and there were some very fun incidents, it didn't make up for the general playing time feeling like meaningless chores. i tried to spend some time on provi instead, but while there i felt like it would be more valuable to spend my time on the other server where there are animals and victory to be had and its fast to find someone to kill etc. suddenly my drive to log in to salem was somehow completely gone, and i barely even kept my turkeys fed for several weeks before returning to providence. and that's really something, because other than that since i started salem back in 2013 not a single day ever passed when i didn't log in and actually spend time playing.

[ToorimaKun]

i don't like temporary servers and i don't like artificial 'win' conditions.

well mainly the server was to get the animals... but seems most people find them too much of an effort to even bother with tho.
and with the statue you could have kept your char if you made enough trips to it.

[jakhollin]

I have to side with Arteties on this. He seems to understand. In the TEMP server it is due or die in the first week. If you are not up to the task chances are someone will role in and take you out. It takes a week to get the materials to get a town claim up and once you do you are potentially the most powerful on the server. All the action that you talked about happening in the first week was the result of groups who knew this. The action on the expedition server is yet to come. I imagine if Art is in a group like mine there is going to be a lot of action going on soon possibly between our two groups. It is only a matter of time.

As for now I think the progression is fine. If you were in a group that did not get far then obviously you missed out on the potential learning experiences. As I said before I have learned a lot, taught some, and have been taught even more. The expedition server to me is about group dynamics making it to defend, attack, and survive. Grabbing animals is a consolation prize. Learning from others and wreaking Havoc is the main purpose of the server. Messing with the progression for the purpose of creating a balance between hardcore and the casual player is not appropriate in a survival game. I can say from experience I have fallen behind but the group of friends I have have picked me back up to make sure that I help them obtain all of our goals. That is what an expedition is about. You don't go hunting in the woods and leave your buddy to be mauled by a bear.... You pick them up and keep moving.

[Lallaith]

i don't like temporary servers and i don't like artificial 'win' conditions.

well mainly the server was to get the animals... but seems most people find them too much of an effort to even bother with tho.
and with the statue you could have kept your char if you made enough trips to it.

yet another alt on prov even a pretty nice one isn't something i place much value on, certainly not enough to go running to a statue over when i don't enjoy that server. even if it would magically be improved to match my main on provi that's no motivation to play there. i got animals on popham and found them to be a pain in the ass to care for and less fun than i'd imagined, and i always resented feeling obligated to play on popham for their sake.

an expedition in a very different form i might enjoy. but what we have now is totally not my thing at all.

[Rubberduckbandit]

Pop is just boring, whats the point of killing random retard 1/2/3 when they're going to die anyways, and the prizes really don't outweigh the grindy work, you're the winner of a server, and you brag? Cool, maybe like 20 people actually care, this game isn't big enough for that to even matter, or for people to boast their achievements if they're into that kind of thing.

[jakhollin]

Pop is just boring, whats the point of killing random retard 1/2/3 when they're going to die anyways, and the prizes really don't outweigh the grindy work, you're the winner of a server, and you brag? Cool, maybe like 20 people actually care, this game isn't big enough for that to even matter, or for people to boast their achievements if they're into that kind of thing.

Really?

Have you seen these threads? Pretty sure you may have commented on one or two of them.....

http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13657
http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14266
http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14494

For a happy little floating duck you really sink my spirits....

[Lallaith]

Pop is just boring, whats the point of killing random retard 1/2/3 when they're going to die anyways, and the prizes really don't outweigh the grindy work, you're the winner of a server, and you brag? Cool, maybe like 20 people actually care, this game isn't big enough for that to even matter, or for people to boast their achievements if they're into that kind of thing.

Really?

Have you seen these threads? Pretty sure you may have commented on one or two of them.....

http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=13657
http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14266
http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14494

For a happy little floating duck you really sink my spirits....

dude, one of those threads is an old scalping thread from my group on providence, which we don't even post in since ages ago now. the other two threads are actually popham relevant, but have had no dramaful content added to them since very early in the server.

[Atreties]

I'm pretty hyped for that movie

[jakhollin]

I know right it looks freaking great. Gonna wanna shoot a cannon at some hapless half-whit after I see it I swear....

[TotalyMeow]

Has anyone considered the possibility of making sure they are the only group to return animals to Providence? I suppose that's more ambitious than most could handle, but it seems the logical goal.