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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby Yes » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:05 pm

313 is the degree of the angle to the 3rd clue?
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby Claeyt » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:14 pm

Procne wrote:No, in the area pointed out by the clue. It took me 2-3 hours of pure exploration (not counting the time needed to get there) to find the second clue and I think I was lucky with it.

I think they've made this waaay to hard for players to track and they're going to end up with only a couple of people actually finding any of them. People forget that others don't have their prior knowledge or location knowledge in this game. This reminds me of the Roanoke treasure hunt where YGM had us trying to find whole cities in the area and even though I had access to a map of 70% of Roanoke and knowledge of most of the cities there I still didn't have his exact reference points and because of that we got stuck at some of the clues even though they seemed obvious to him.

Are the rest of these clues so obscure as to just require blind exploration for them?

As to the area pointed out by the clue, I still have no idea where that is or what direction it is. I've got an idea as to what to look for but what does the 313 mean. It has no reference to anything in the book of Enoch or the book of Isaiah or the bible that means anything here. the book of Enoch's chapter 3 has no line 13, chapter 31's line 3 makes no sense here and it has no chapter 313. The book of Isaiah's chapter 3 line 13, and chapter 31 line 13 make no sense whatsoever here. So it must be degrees somehow or relating to a direction.

Was there a number in the clue they've erased in town? I really wish you guys could put it back up or post it here so those of us who didn't get a chance to see it can use it as a reference as to how you're framing these clues because right now it seems like just blind luck in finding it after hours or days of exploring and your already losing a lot of players after clue 1 who don't want to do that and it's pretty frustrating for us mappers who actually explore a lot.

Procne is saying that it's simple luck that helped him find the second clue. Is this how the rest of the trail of clues are going to be?

Edit: On top of which different bible's have different translations of that quote from Isaiah if you're using the Isaiah quote to mean something in reference to location. The mis-translation of 'Bitterns' to 'Owls' in a lot of modern bibles is screwing up a lot of people from talking to them. Did you mean Bitterns as in Bitterns (Herons, wading birds, water birds) or Bitterns from the King James mis-translation to mean Owls? On top of which if you're using the quote as a reference to the destruction of Bablyon then again you're using a specific translation that is really, really different in modern bibles and other bibles from the King James version. Can we get a confirmation that you're only using the King James version?

Edit 2: Also The book of Enoch has about 40 different translations online as well so if you could tell us which one of those you're using that'd be great.
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby Dallane » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:24 pm

Claeyt wrote:I think they've made this waaay to hard for players to track and they're going to end up with only a couple of people actually finding any of them.


Good. Witchcraft will finally be a exclusive and secret club instead of playing the witch lotto.
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby Claeyt » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:30 pm

Dallane wrote:Good. Witchcraft will finally be a exclusive and secret club instead of playing the witch lotto.

...and eventually it'll be 10 people and you trying to grind Fur Fur's just to end Popham somehow and we'll be back to pre-patch numbers. Witchcraft should be hard but not impossible and treasure hunts should be hard but not not impossible and not based on blind exploration.
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby TotalyMeow » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:38 pm

Just because it's hard for you doesn't mean there aren't several people finding the clues and just wisely keeping quiet about it.
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby Claeyt » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:40 pm

TotalyMeow wrote:Just because it's hard for you doesn't mean there aren't several people finding the clues and just wisely keeping quiet about it.

I doubt anybody but Procne has found it and he's saying it took him 2-3 hours of searching the location and he says he was lucky to even find the clue. Can we get a confirmation on which translations of the Bible and book of Enoch you're using?
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby TotalyMeow » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:46 pm

Claeyt wrote:I doubt anybody but Procne has found it and he's saying it took him 2-3 hours of searching the location and he says he was lucky to even find the clue.


I doubt you even have a clue.
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby Dallane » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:48 pm

Claeyt wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Just because it's hard for you doesn't mean there aren't several people finding the clues and just wisely keeping quiet about it.

I doubt anybody but Procne has found it and he's saying it took him 2-3 hours of searching the location and he says he was lucky to even find the clue. Can we get a confirmation on which translations of the Bible and book of Enoch you're using?


There are a few people who have done this. You are saying **** that you have no idea about. STOP.
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby Claeyt » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:57 pm

Dallane wrote:
Claeyt wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Just because it's hard for you doesn't mean there aren't several people finding the clues and just wisely keeping quiet about it.

I doubt anybody but Procne has found it and he's saying it took him 2-3 hours of searching the location and he says he was lucky to even find the clue. Can we get a confirmation on which translations of the Bible and book of Enoch you're using?


There are a few people who have done this. You are saying **** that you have no idea about. STOP.

How about you STOP chasing me around the forums and saying I don't have a clue over and over again for no reason. The whole point of me asking about this stuff is because I do have a clue about the game and that me and a ton of other people don't understand the clue and I"m worried they've made it impossible to follow them without access to the dev's or prior knowledge.

Just because some people through lucky exploration or out of game contact with the dev's may have done this doesn't mean it isn't broken for the rest of us. I don't think Wtichcraft on Popham (and thus winning the server) should be an exclusive club. Most of us didn't even have access to all the previous Providence witch meetings where you guys learned how to become tier 2 and 3 witches so it's going to be hard enough for us on Popham without having to blindly explore huge areas for the clues. If they have no chance of competing on Popham then most people are just going to give up and go back to Providence or god forbid go back to Hafen when it pops in a couple of weeks.
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Re: Popham Witchery *Salem V.1.0.3*

Postby Dallane » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:04 pm

Claeyt wrote:How about you STOP chasing me around the forums and saying I don't have a clue over and over again for no reason. The whole point of me asking about this stuff is because I do have a clue about the game and that me and a ton of other people don't understand the clue and I"m worried they've made it impossible to follow them without access to the dev's or prior knowledge.

Just because some people through lucky exploration or out of game contact with the dev's may have done this doesn't mean it isn't broken for the rest of us. I don't think Wtichcraft on Popham (and thus winning the server) should be an exclusive club. Most of us didn't even have the access to all the previous Providence witch meetings where you guys learned how to become tier 2 and 3 witches so it's going to be hard enough for us on Popham without having to blindly explore huge areas for the clues. Most people are just going to give up and go back to Providence or god forbid go back to Hafen when it pops in a couple of weeks.


You once again look the fool with everything you said. None of what you have said is true. If you don't like me correcting you then you need to actually play the game and get gud. I could correct you but whats the point. I don't think you are intelligent enough to understand this game even while having your hand held.
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