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Re: Passive Madness

Postby Heffernan » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:30 am

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Dallane wrote:I never made any deals with you involving 20k. You however have agreed to terms and John Confirmed that this is legit. Are you saying you are backing out of a deal and are a confirmed scammer?


how is that scamming, its only scamming if we made a TRADE involving 2 parties selling/trading items for either items/silver and i see u selling no items. its merely backing down since u never won by having 2 characters online playing, yet i demand 20k for damage u done to my trades, hoew about that way? :p


Dude, you made a bet. You lost it as confirmed by John. Now, you're trying to change the deal, back out of it, and make a spurious counter claim. Whether or not you define this is a scam, you are clearly breaking your word here and that is pretty much the same thing when it comes to being a merchant. You're making it clear that you'll 'change your mind' in the middle of a deal if there's enough money involved. Might you do this again some day if someone tries to buy a Simple Bonnet from you? Or some ultra rare trinkets?


not really, i told him if he gets online playing with 2 characters "without cheating" id pay him 10k but just having a logged off char that stays online just because hes carrying stuff and another logged in doesnt count, i was talking about playing both at the same time... and i have never scammed anyone thats legit, he just tries to make the subject so he wins automatically by obscure ways wich i said in the first wont be tolerated :|
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby Dallane » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:35 am

Once again you are proven to be a scammer and a liar.


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I insist that you please pay me my winnings.
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby Heffernan » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:37 am

Dallane wrote:Once again you are proven to be a scammer and a liar.


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I insist that you please pay me my winnings.


but u didnt win, ur character is not regulary logged in to activly be able to play thegame, please stop changing facts.

edit: i even wrote on the next page, u CANT win by cheatong or going a irregular way that doesnt mean u play 2 chars on a account on the same time
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby Dallane » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:43 am

Heffernan wrote:
Dallane wrote:Once again you are proven to be a scammer and a liar.


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I insist that you please pay me my winnings.


but u didnt win, ur character is not regulary logged in to activly be able to play thegame, please stop changing facts.

edit: i even wrote on the next page, u CANT win by cheatong or going a irregular way that doesnt mean u play 2 chars on a account on the same time


You already agreed to the terms. There was no irregular way. The deal was never to play 2 at the same time only that both are logged on. Please stop scamming people. I would hate to have this information out there. Seems like it would be bad press for a trader such as yourself.
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby Flink » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:57 am

wooo, such drama, such wow!
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby ericbomb » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:29 am

Haha it's hardly "dirty" also because of the new "Will stay logged in for longer period after closing client" You can just close your client, open up a new one, and log in on the new client and your other toon will be right there since they stay in the world for about 60 seconds when your client crashes. In fact JC mentioned it in announcements, so not only is it "not dirty" it was announced as a feature that if you close a client the character will stay in the world.

I agree that you didn't say anything about "playing" the character.
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby Dallane » Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:38 am

Heff I'll let you sleep it on it tonight. I'll send a PM in the morning to see if you got the money. I'm willing to take payments if you don't have it all up front.
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby NeiroShop » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:33 am

Heffernan wrote:
how is that scamming, its only scamming if we made a TRADE involving 2 parties selling/trading items for either items/silver and i see u selling no items. its merely backing down since u never won by having 2 characters online playing, yet i demand 20k for damage u done to my trades, hoew about that way? :p


It is maybe not scamming. But yes your word means nothing after taking a bet then when you lose it you back out on it. 10k silver isnt even that much. You had no qualms about accepting the silver if Dallane had failed yes?

And yes you never stated he needed to play on both characters.

Take it like a man and accept your loss. Noone wouldve cared had you not accepted such a bet but by accepting it and then backing out. It just shows you for who you are.


Oh and im by no way a fan of Dallane. (if he wasnt a mod he'd be blocked for me).
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby Procne » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:52 am

Wow, who would make such a bet... Hasn't the mechanic, of characters not leaving game world when on someone else's claim, been here since 2012? That's how people were attuning keys to characters on the same account
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Re: Passive Madness

Postby Cheena » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:57 am

Procne wrote:Wow, who would make such a bet... Hasn't the mechanic, of characters not leaving game world when on someone else's claim, been here since 2012? That's how people were attuning keys to characters on the same account

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