Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not crit)

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Re: Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not cri

Postby Dallane » Fri May 29, 2015 6:18 pm

JC can we please get stronger walls? Raiders have it too easy.
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Re: Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not cri

Postby Judaism » Fri May 29, 2015 6:20 pm

Dallane wrote:JC can we please get stronger walls? Raiders have it too easy.


Please do !

Realaks idea is a 9/10, it would be better with a 100% crit change, and every crit will do 100% of your blood.
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Re: Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not cri

Postby Rubberduckbandit » Fri May 29, 2015 6:22 pm

Can we have a carebear server, i'm scared of everyone, because i'm to lazy to build a real base.
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Re: Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not cri

Postby ShadowTani » Fri May 29, 2015 7:10 pm

Darwoth wrote:sorry but it does not take much effort to buy 500 silver of items off the vendor (if you are not competent enough to make wrought iron and some weapons, which is pretty damn basic) and construct a TBC with a wall around it and a brazier in the middle, your perception of "game design flaws" is based off your lack of knowledge of said games design, furthermore your comment about the "game design flaw" of town bells taking precedence over player claims further discredits anything you have to say on the matter.

I honestly think it's a flawed game design when there are obvious loopholes that allow people to dodge certain game mechanics. Otherwise the stock system becomes a false advertisement of justice that only really punishes nub/dumb players and alts. I don't have any problem with the current criminal/defence system otherwise, I think it's relatively fairly balanced. I actually wouldn't complained if the grind raiders face was reduced some, I'm more in favor of challenge rather than grind personally. It's just that I don't like cowardism and anything that give validation for such behavior and I think that's a valid enough opinion, just like you seem to detest any hint of incompetence which is also understandable.

Also, it wasn't my intention to imply town bells have precedence over player claims. I understand you can still use a TBC to summon someone behind a town bell, no? That wasn't really the point with my suggestion, I just don't think hermits should use town bells as a defence mechanism - and that's a system that affects raiders too as far as I have understood, not just vigilantes. There's other solutions for that of course, like requiring a certain amount of founding members for a town etc. but I see that as a less ideal solution. Actually a very dumb solution too. Either way, I will admit that you are right to assume that I probably still need to learn more about the Town System though. That doesn't discredit everything I have to say though, just means the wiki needs to be polished some more. ;)

If you believe I've misunderstood anything then you're welcome to explain constructively why or why not, people don't learn a thing from having **** hurled at them. Besides a retard is someone who is slow to learn, so if a person gets called retard without even having been given the chance to learn anything then it has no other meaning than showing that the insulter is incompetent in explaining a concept. I know most people don't think that far and thus get provoked anyway - but to me those that do this are only insulting themselves. I can understand if you're tired of seeing the same thing explained over and over again though and I sympathize with that.
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Re: Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not cri

Postby Dallane » Fri May 29, 2015 7:28 pm

Stop being retarded ShadowTani
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Re: Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not cri

Postby Rifmaster » Fri May 29, 2015 8:42 pm

ShadowTani wrote:
Darwoth wrote:sorry but it does not take much effort to buy 500 silver of items off the vendor (if you are not competent enough to make wrought iron and some weapons, which is pretty damn basic) and construct a TBC with a wall around it and a brazier in the middle, your perception of "game design flaws" is based off your lack of knowledge of said games design, furthermore your comment about the "game design flaw" of town bells taking precedence over player claims further discredits anything you have to say on the matter.

I honestly think it's a flawed game design when there are obvious loopholes that allow people to dodge certain game mechanics. Otherwise the stock system becomes a false advertisement of justice that only really punishes nub/dumb players and alts. I don't have any problem with the current criminal/defence system otherwise, I think it's relatively fairly balanced. I actually wouldn't complained if the grind raiders face was reduced some, I'm more in favor of challenge rather than grind personally. It's just that I don't like cowardism and anything that give validation for such behavior and I think that's a valid enough opinion, just like you seem to detest any hint of incompetence which is also understandable.

Also, it wasn't my intention to imply town bells have precedence over player claims. I understand you can still use a TBC to summon someone behind a town bell, no? That wasn't really the point with my suggestion, I just don't think hermits should use town bells as a defence mechanism - and that's a system that affects raiders too as far as I have understood, not just vigilantes. There's other solutions for that of course, like requiring a certain amount of founding members for a town etc. but I see that as a less ideal solution. Actually a very dumb solution too. Either way, I will admit that you are right to assume that I probably still need to learn more about the Town System though. That doesn't discredit everything I have to say though, just means the wiki needs to be polished some more. ;)

If you believe I've misunderstood anything then you're welcome to explain constructively why or why not, people don't learn a thing from having **** hurled at them. Besides a retard is someone who is slow to learn, so if a person gets called retard without even having been given the chance to learn anything then it has no other meaning than showing that the insulter is incompetent in explaining a concept. I know most people don't think that far and thus get provoked anyway - but to me those that do this are only insulting themselves. I can understand if you're tired of seeing the same thing explained over and over again though and I sympathize with that.


You went full retard man. Never go full retard.
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Re: Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not cri

Postby ShadowTani » Fri May 29, 2015 9:08 pm

Rifmaster wrote:You went full retard man. Never go full retard.

Full retard eh? Like repeating the same joke as the post above you? ¦]

At least I was kinda half-expecting Dallane to make his comment, a shame so many take offence of what he says, he's easily one of the most fun people on this forum. :lol:
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Re: Braziers should have a chance to do blood damage(not cri

Postby Darwoth » Fri May 29, 2015 9:11 pm

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