Destroyer hammer

[Rifmaster]

handsaw
p2w

I was simply saying they both do the same thing *****.

[Dallane]

So basically pay-to-win hammers?

Yup

Ok then, handsaws are also pay to win then.

They give a clear speed advantage just like the hammer, and there is also ones you can craft so you don't have to pay for them, just like the hammer.

But anyway, I think if JC is gonna add 2 more types of wall, then raiding should be made much easier, because it would bring more drama, paranoia, insecurity and tears.

The retardation continues.....

[Rifmaster]

The retardation continues.....

Listen, nowhere did i say handsaws were OP, but a hammer giving a boost in speed is not overpowered at all, considering every other store tool pretty much does the same thing, saves time.

Heck even scissors save you time from hunting a hundred bears to get more claws and stuff like that.
Don't see why hammers shouldn't do the same thing.

[TotalyMeow]

The big difference here is that a hammer would be used to destroy someone's base. Cutting faster with a better saw, for example, will let you finish making boards a little sooner than you would have. Taking 45 minutes versus 50 minutes to make your board piles isn't going to make a big difference. But that same five minutes in a raid could mean a big difference to the owner of a base in whether or not he can try to repair the wall your are bashing or get ready to fight you, or execute a plan to escape, or call in help.

[Dallane]

The retardation continues.....

Listen, nowhere did i say handsaws were OP, but a hammer giving a boost in speed is not overpowered at all, considering every other store tool pretty much does the same thing, saves time.

Heck even scissors save you time from hunting a hundred bears to get more claws and stuff like that.
Don't see why hammers shouldn't do the same thing.

it just won't stop.

[Judaism]

even if it would become slower to bash a wall without a tool, and the tool would just allow us to maintain current speeds i'd still be happy.

Exactly, because it currently does not make sense.

On top of that Haven & Hearth features a sledge hammer, which I did not even knew about. Point is that we do need something simular.

http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Sledge_hammer

[trungdle]

We're going back to the discussion about whether walls are too OP, and I think the difference in MM's point of view from Seatribe's is shown in the way they buff it.
I think we're going to have cannon for breaking walls on expedition. For the main server, I would love some security and order, just to win over some carebears. (and slowly brainwash them into PvP)

[Heffernan]

even if it would become slower to bash a wall without a tool, and the tool would just allow us to maintain current speeds i'd still be happy.

Exactly, because it currently does not make sense.

On top of that Haven & Hearth features a sledge hammer, which I did not even knew about. Point is that we do need something simular.

http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Sledge_hammer

but H&H also has a battering ram, maybe this would work more?

http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Ram

a battering ram that u need to build near the spot u want to raid and takes alot of time to build so the raider has to make some preparations.

[trungdle]

Isn't it the job of TbF?

[Heffernan]

Isn't it the job of TbF?

trial by fire is for the Townbell but nothing else :s