Keys - seems to not be working right

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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby Kandarim » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:37 am

The point is: giving someone a slave key no longer allows that person to donate the slave key to another. As it should be. If you trust people enough to allow them to let other people in, give them a master key. I still think this is a very good thing. aside from the fact that I need a bigger keyring :)
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby Toorimakun » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:16 pm

yah, that part of it is good
but should still be able to re-attune it if you have the master key... even if it isn't attuned to you.
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby Toorimakun » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:32 am

i have found yet an other flaw with the new key system...
you can't transfer a slave key to a char on the same account.


what was wrong with the old key system?
even if it is in effort to stop slave keys being passed to some one you didn't want them to be passed to then at very least if you have the master key you should be able to re-attune it.
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby Procne » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:01 am

What "old key system"? Has the Salem key system changed in the last 2 years?

And there are ways to attune slave key to another character on the same account. Simply make this characte tresspass on your claim - when you log out it will stay online. Then you can attune the key
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby Kandarim » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:15 pm

Procne wrote:What "old key system"? Has the Salem key system changed in the last 2 years?

And there are ways to attune slave key to another character on the same account. Simply make this characte tresspass on your claim - when you log out it will stay online. Then you can attune the key


the key system has changed. You can no longer re-attune a slave key you have been given unless you have the corresponding master key.
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby DarkNacht » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:26 pm

Toorimakun wrote:i have found yet an other flaw with the new key system...
you can't transfer a slave key to a char on the same account.

There are plenty of ways to keep a character in game after you logout and them attune a key to them, or you can just make sure you have your key alt on a different account to your other characters.
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby Toorimakun » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:22 am

Kandarim wrote:the key system has changed. You can no longer re-attune a slave key you have been given unless you have the corresponding master key.

wait.... you are suppose to be able to re-attune a slave key if you have the master key?.... Hmm... maybe it has to be in your inventory instead of the keyring?


nope, still have 4 completely useless keys i can't do **** with.....
they are attuned to the char holding them... and i have the master key attuned to me....
guess it is time to figure out the password to my 3rd account and make a key alt..... yet more stupid system programming by the new devas. >.>
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby TotalyMeow » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:49 am

Toorimakun wrote:
Kandarim wrote:the key system has changed. You can no longer re-attune a slave key you have been given unless you have the corresponding master key.

wait.... you are suppose to be able to re-attune a slave key if you have the master key?.... Hmm... maybe it has to be in your inventory instead of the keyring?


nope, still have 4 completely useless keys i can't do **** with.....
they are attuned to the char holding them... and i have the master key attuned to me....
guess it is time to figure out the password to my 3rd account and make a key alt..... yet more stupid system programming by the new devas. >.>


I don't see what the problem here is. You can make a master copy if you need to have a key you can reattune. The reason we made slave keys attune once only is to make villages more secure. Now, if a villager wants to betray his village he at least has to be there opening and closing the gates, making everything more dangerous for himself and the raiders instead of just giving one of them the key.
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby Toorimakun » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:59 am

but you should at least be able to re-attune a slave key (even if not attuned to you) if you have the master key... attuned to you of course.

my personal problem is i passed all my keys to a char that is less likely to get killed... incase my main dies i can just gift my new char a key... but since they have been attuned to my keyholder alt i can't pass them on to any one.


you could also make a key always attunable by a users account that makes the key.
so if i made a new char and passed a key to him he could just attune the key to himself.
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Re: Keys - seems to not be working right

Postby JohnCarver » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:12 am

Toorimakun wrote:but you should at least be able to re-attune a slave key (even if not attuned to you) if you have the master key... attuned to you of course.

my personal problem is i passed all my keys to a char that is less likely to get killed... incase my main dies i can just gift my new char a key... but since they have been attuned to my keyholder alt i can't pass them on to any one.


you could also make a key always attunable by a users account that makes the key.
so if i made a new char and passed a key to him he could just attune the key to himself.


Or, as many players have pointed out to you, you could simply understand and use the mechanic as intended. Give master keys to your own characters and slave keys to players you don't want passing their keys on to other players.
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