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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Kalliokamu » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:54 pm

Kalliokamu wrote:"In your world criminals would get their guns no matter what (through illegal means because they are criminals)"


Hate to repeat this but couldn't resist
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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Procne » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:58 pm

Claeyt wrote:...

You completely missed the point. It's not something you can fix with regulations. Unless you assign a policemen to every person in a country there will be ways to obtain weapons. Gun regulations will make it slightly harder but will not stop that. Besides those regulations are not aimed at stopping terrorists, but at stopping citizens from killing each other. Without firearms terroritst would find other ways, for example pressure cookers, poison, etc. It's not the matter of means, it's the matter of intentions.
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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Dallane » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:31 pm

hey guise if we ban guns there will be no gun violence right?

right?

.....right....?

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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Claeyt » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:18 pm

Procne wrote:
Claeyt wrote:...

You completely missed the point. It's not something you can fix with regulations. Unless you assign a policemen to every person in a country there will be ways to obtain weapons. Gun regulations will make it slightly harder but will not stop that. Besides those regulations are not aimed at stopping terrorists, but at stopping citizens from killing each other. Without firearms terroritst would find other ways, for example pressure cookers, poison, etc. It's not the matter of means, it's the matter of intentions.

Yes they will find other ways and they will still smuggle guns into countries illegally. The point Darwoth is trying to make is that if everyone had a gun then the terrorists wouldn't be able to do what they did in France and that's just not true. If we make guns incredibly hard for them to get then they'll use other less effective methods like bombs and poison. If we try and stop them through enforcement we'll stop them more often.

More guns do not stop terrorists. Less guns means less non-terrorist people killing other non-terrorist people with guns.

Dallane wrote:hey guise if we ban guns there will be no gun violence right?

right?

.....right....?

=(

Absolutely right. Yes. In all countries that have banned completely (Japan) or severally reduced their access to guns (Australia, most of western Europe) Gun violence has gone done incredible amounts. There will always be some gun violence as long as there are guns in the world but if you restrict access to them and enforce smuggling laws then it lowers violence.
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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Dallane » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:22 pm

Thank god america is going to stay free
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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Thor » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:25 pm

Blah, I want more guns. Shooting guns is the best thing to do while wearing pants. Bigger the gun, better.
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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Dallane » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:26 pm

Thor wrote:Blah, I want more guns. Shooting guns is the best thing to do with pants on. Bigger the gun, better.


Gonna be cleaning my never shot colt 1911 this weekend. I can't ***** wait. Might take that bad boy out and pop a few rounds off.
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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Thor » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:30 pm

Try an expendable missile launcher, I know I have!
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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Dallane » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:37 pm

Thor wrote:Try an expendable missile launcher, I know I have!


I have a old style decommissioned one back home. I would love to fire one of them
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Re: today two muslims killed a dozen french folks

Postby Kalliokamu » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:15 pm

Thor wrote:Try an expendable missile launcher, I know I have!


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