JohnCarver wrote:I think the latest tragedy does at least highlight that outlawing them certainly doesn't keep them out of the hands of those that want to kill.
You do realize that a anybody with a lathe, a free day, and a $2.00 Chunk of scrap metal can and do create single-shot fire-arms? You realize that with 3D printers and technology the way it goes 'making a gun from home' will be even easier and more available to the public? Pretending you can regulate guns from people who need them is as functional as regulating water in the rain. Sure you could set up large tarps over an entire city to try to keep all the rainwater from the people. But somebody thirsty enough will simply poke a hole and get their hands on it while the rest of the city dehydrates.
Drop me anywhere in the world and I promise you within 72 hours I could have a fire-arm. Now, realize that somebody who wishes ill-will knows the same thing and all your advocating is regulation of firearms away from the prey, not the predators.
I do agree for the majority with what you say and people that WANT to kill can obtain their weapon of choice, depending on how patient they are and what contacts they have.
When I was young I used to always carry a knife, this was because I spend most of my time (outside of school) in the woods and having a knife was very useful.
At some point I got in trouble at school and 5 guys where physically bullying me. I remember standing at my desk, putting away my knife knowing I would pull it on the next occasion.
I know someone who has had the exact same scenario but he decided to take the knife anyway... He spend his younger years in juvenile and it took him a long time to get his life back together.
Now, my point is mostly aimed at the scenario's when someone pulls a weapon in the heat of the moment. Not planned assassinations.
Another point is that the police in the US is a lot more aggressive and more likely to shoot you simply because they MUST assume you can have a gun and if so they only have a split second to make the call.
I love the fact I can argue with a police officer here, call him out and tell him to ***** off (all within the legal forms of "feedback" etc etc).
It is impossible to completely regulate guns however it does remove the chances of accidental shootings, impulse shootings and cops shooting first asking questions later.
Most European countries allow you to have a gun if you agree to the permit, tests and have a legit reason to carrying/having one, which only takes joining a shooting club/firing range.
Argentis wrote:Also if someone want to kill someone. Really want it. They don't need a gun (even though it's easier). You can choke someone with your hands. Kill someone with a knife very easily if you are skilled enough. IF you are skilled enough with any weapons you can also defend yourself without killing. With a knife just don't stab (I once got attacked at an exit of the Parisian metro by a guy armed with a knife and let me tell you how easy it is to disarm you providing you don't know how to use a knife and the person you face knows what they are doing).
With a gun shoot the legs or the arms. It will incapacitate someone just fine.
That's why I insist that the right to carry a gun should come with an exam deeming if you are skilled enough to use the gun.
Agreed, but it all requires training which means the government should know they had training, either legally or illegally (And I believe they do know).
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