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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Claeyt » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:02 am

Inotdead wrote:Think about it this way: if someone manages to get a hold on a gun in any of the EU countries, he is 100% sure that no one except for the police is able to respond.

Exactly. The police would respond. It's nearly impossible to get a hold of a gun in EU countries and if they are caught it's a massive penalty. Everyone's safer.

As for what you said about Black's in American Society, most of it was just jibberish.

Most African Americans lead boring lives inside society just like the rest of us. Poverty is disproportionate in African-American communities because of a not-to-distant past of racism and discrimination. Slowly but surely it's getting better. Cultural norms within Black culture keep them from integrating towards society as a whole, but again that's changing also. The vast majority of African-Americans are pissed off at shootings like this and especially Treyvon's because of the continued perception and reality of the views of white police officers in this country. Too many view African Americans as criminals first, instead of citizens. And jackasses like Darwoth, George Zimmerman and maybe you push it even further and form your racial views based on suspicion and hatred.
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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Dallane » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:06 am

Claeyt wrote: Too many view African Americans as criminals first, instead of citizens. And jackasses like Darwoth, George Zimmerman and maybe you push it even further and form your racial views based on suspicion and hatred.


Maybe if they were not the major demographic for crime it wouldn't be a issue.
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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Claeyt » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:09 am

Dallane wrote:
Claeyt wrote:he government started buyback programs


Buy backs would be a good idea if they didn't pay you 50$ for a 1000$ gun. People turning in guns for that kind of price instead of selling them is just insane.

I'll keep my collecting growing as a investment lol

Australia and Britain forced buybacks at fixed prices. Mostly they made guns really, really hard to own through strict licensing, so people just got rid of them instead. They got what they paid for them if I remember right.

Canada has stricter laws on what guns are available to buy up there. Again, their system would really work here. Their murder and crime rate is much lower because of simple stuff like no private sales without background checks, the equivalent of a driver's license to own a gun, and certain types of guns being illegal to own.

Dallane wrote:3-D guns are getting better and better. People are already printing AR lowers which have a good short term use.

Again, 3-D guns are barely legal right now because of federal gun manufacturing laws. I'm not worried about anyone being able to make a durable assault rifle that can fire like a factory made one anytime soon.
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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Kaios » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:13 am

My only comment on this is that any "protesters" who "protest" in this fashion are complete and utter morons. Damaging public and private property belonging to other citizens and stealing their goods is completely in(s)ane and they are no better than any corrupt officer (though I'm not stating this particular officer is corrupt).
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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Haukeye » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:13 am

Dallane wrote:
Claeyt wrote: Too many view African Americans as criminals first, instead of citizens. And jackasses like Darwoth, George Zimmerman and maybe you push it even further and form your racial views based on suspicion and hatred.


Maybe if they were not the major demographic for crime it wouldn't be a issue.

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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Dallane » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:14 am

Claeyt wrote:Canada has stricter laws on what guns are available to buy up there. Again, their system would really work here. Their murder and crime rate is much lower because of simple stuff like no private sales without background checks, the equivalent of a driver's license to own a gun, and certain types of guns being illegal to own.


I would be happy with all this minus the certain guns. If i remember right they are oppressed into only having hunting rifles and shotguns. I don't know their pistol laws.

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Dallane wrote: I'm not worried about anyone being able to make a durable assault rifle that can fire like a factory made one anytime soon.



They can fire like a factory one fine but only last for so many rounds before the gun fails. They work more then enough to get the job done.
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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Claeyt » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:16 am

Dallane wrote:
Claeyt wrote: Too many view African Americans as criminals first, instead of citizens. And jackasses like Darwoth, George Zimmerman and maybe you push it even further and form your racial views based on suspicion and hatred.


Maybe if they were not the major demographic for crime it wouldn't be a issue.

See, that's the thing. They're not the major demographic. They commit some crimes disproportionately to whites but similarly to poor whites who live in urban settings. Whites and Hispanics still commit more crimes overall. Blacks just commit the most per capita, and not in all crimes. Concentrated inner-city poverty and drug prohibition are major factors. Gangs, poverty and concentrated urban police action are why there are so many blacks in prison per capita. Slowly but surely the racial per capita crime statistics are normalizing. Eventually we'll get there.
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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Inotdead » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:26 am

Claeyt wrote:
Inotdead wrote:Think about it this way: if someone manages to get a hold on a gun in any of the EU countries, he is 100% sure that no one except for the police is able to respond.

Exactly. The police would respond. It's nearly impossible to get a hold of a gun in EU countries and if they are caught it's a massive penalty. Everyone's safer.

As for what you said about Black's in American Society, most of it was just jibberish.

Most African Americans lead boring lives inside society just like the rest of us. Poverty is disproportionate in African-American communities because of a not-to-distant past of racism and discrimination. Slowly but surely it's getting better. Cultural norms within Black culture keep them from integrating towards society as a whole, but again that's changing also. The vast majority of African-Americans are pissed off at shootings like this and especially Treyvon's because of the continued perception and reality of the views of white police officers in this country. Too many view African Americans as criminals first, instead of citizens. And jackasses like Darwoth, George Zimmerman and maybe you push it even further and form your racial views based on suspicion and hatred.


Yes they get caught and penalized after they've shot to death everything that's been dear to you. Good job.

Yeah, thanks for proving my point regarding Black's also. It's exactly what I've been saying, that people who are willing to integrate and lead normal, in your words, 'boring', lives do so.
They are not the ones rioting right now.
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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Claeyt » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:26 am

Dallane wrote:
Claeyt wrote:Canada has stricter laws on what guns are available to buy up there. Again, their system would really work here. Their murder and crime rate is much lower because of simple stuff like no private sales without background checks, the equivalent of a driver's license to own a gun, and certain types of guns being illegal to own.


I would be happy with all this minus the certain guns. If i remember right they are oppressed into only having hunting rifles and shotguns. I don't know their pistol laws.

You can own most handguns, shot guns and rifles. Almost all assault rifles, large magazines and stuff like that is banned. You actually don't even need to have a license to own a rifle or shotgun for hunting. The big difference is the licensing and the banning of stupid guns nobody needs or uses except to play soldier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Canada
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Re: Its because he is black.

Postby Claeyt » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:29 am

Inotdead wrote:They are not the ones rioting right now.

Actually, you're wrong. I'd say middle-class blacks are pissed off as hell right now. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are down there throwing fireworks.
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