Its because he is black.

[HolyLight]

Im waiting a few more hours, as it seems Mr.D shares my same concerns, even though im half the world away, im wondering what will happen tonight in america. Will said people continue to rampage around looting and rioting causing even more tens of millions of dollers in damages or not.

These people who continue to claim it was a race hate crime, are clearly racist themselves, but as mentioned above, if we do not agree with them, we are racist ourselves.

[Inotdead]

And now we have fuly dissolved.

You all act high and mighty until it is your car that's burning.

But what would I know, building another culture center, like the Islamic one near the 9/11 site should definitely help.

[Darwoth]

whelp, at least the honest folks of ferguson are not defenseless. good thing this country is not europe otherwise they would just be expected to die in place while their house is burnt down and families murdered like what happens each time someone gives the muslims an excuse to go *****.

as an aside how much you want to bet the black guy defending his livelihood and friends in the last picture will later be targetted by his "own" for being an "uncle tom"?

[Claeyt]

And honestly - this has nothing to do with race. I wonder why the police hast to kill so many people at all. What kind of country is it where it becomes necessary to behave like that as a policeman?

It's the kind of country where there are 300 million.... that's MILLION... guns in it. That's nearly 1/3 of a Billion guns in the United States and everyone including people with mental illness have relatively easy access to them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

[HolyLight]

And now we have fuly dissolved.

You all act high and mighty until it is your car that's burning.

But what would I know, building another culture center, like the Islamic one near the 9/11 site should definitely help.

Lets try not to drag too many other unrelated topics into this subject.

I however do agree with you, pistolshrimp would have a different view if it was his car or lively hood burning down to the ground.

[Inotdead]

And honestly - this has nothing to do with race. I wonder why the police hast to kill so many people at all. What kind of country is it where it becomes necessary to behave like that as a policeman?

It's the kind of country where there are 300 million.... that's MILLION... guns in it. That's nearly 1/3 of a Billion guns in the United States and everyone including people with mental illness have relatively easy access to them.

Blaming it all on guns is as stupid as it could possibly get.
Much bigger issue are the people who are unable/unwilling to integrate into the normal productive society and are holding their personal beliefs before everything else, especially before their fellow countrymen well being.

You have no idea what you are talking about, civil guns are one of the best things about US and it should be spread world wide.

Lets try not to drag too many other unrelated topics into this subject.

Right. That's a bad habit of mine.

[pistolshrimp]

And now we have fuly dissolved.

You all act high and mighty until it is your car that's burning.

But what would I know, building another culture center, like the Islamic one near the 9/11 site should definitely help.

Ya'll crack me up. I'm not defending the rioters or the riot. I'm calling HolyLight a bigot.

[HolyLight]

And now we have fuly dissolved.

You all act high and mighty until it is your car that's burning.

But what would I know, building another culture center, like the Islamic one near the 9/11 site should definitely help.

Ya'll crack me up. I'm not defending the rioters or the riot. I'm calling HolyLight a bigot.

I do have an intolerance towards many things and aspects of life, and this situation is one of them, however.....

There is the right way, and the wrong way of doing things.

The way things unfolded last night, strongly suggested the black's rioting are racist towards the white man. If i am intolerant towards these people, it is because they are racist group of assholes looting and using ***** excuses to do it and it has nothing to do with there ethnic group.

People who loot and riot should be punished HARD, however when incidents like this happen, its very hard to take any action, as any further action will only fuel the race hate war and these groups of people will further claim its "because we are black".

[Claeyt]

I'll ask nicely b4 I report this post could you change the post to something relevant on the topic and not "trigger" things

also this post is going to crash and burn quickly as I see it dissolving into a bigot affair..

Why ? This whole case was based on "Its because he was black" being the reason why the cop killed him. I am only putting this title because its what has been screamed about for the past several months over all media channels.

I personally like how him being shot 6 times as seen by multipul eye witness's, yet all were proven total bullcrap.

He was shot 12 times not 6, twice in the car as he was punching and grabbing for the cops gun and 10 times 30 meters down the road after he ran and then turned on the cop. He may have been surrendering but according to some witnesses he was turning to face the cop, possibly to attack him.

I'm pretty liberal, but this isn't Trevon Martin who was also unarmed, confronted and killed by a private citizen because of how he looked. I understand the basic premise of how young black males are perceived in American society and am wiling to have that argument, but this case is very different in some ways.

Many facts are much worse for the victim here. Brown had marijuana in his system. He and his friend had just stolen some stuff from a convenience store and shoved/hit the owner when he confronted them. The police officer WAS responding to that call and WAS given a description of Brown as the person who had just robbed them. He had no way of knowing if he was armed or not. He quickly ran into Brown and his friend who were walking down the middle of the street just blocks away from the robbery. As he confronted them to get out of the road another, more accurate description came over the radio and he started to get out of his car. Brown then attacked him through the window punching him at least once and possibly going for his gun. Brown was shot in the arm inside of the police car (his blood was found inside it) and then turned to run. He then either turned to attack the cop or turned to surrender, either way he did not lay down on the ground like the cop was telling him too.

I definitely think the cop used excessive force, but again, he had no way of knowing if Brown had a gun. Brown did attack him.

Some things that could have prevented this all from happening.

1. Less guns, if guns are hard to get then eventually we'll run out of them.

2. Body cameras for police officers. This generally makes police officers more conscience of how they are using force.

3. 2 cops per car. This would probably of prevented this all from happening. Unfortunately some towns like Ferguson can't afford that.

4. More black police officers on the force. Ferguson is a newly 'Black' town which is a suburb of St. Louis. Most of the established police and politicians are white. The town has changed dramatically over the last 20 years. The police force hasn't

5. The militarized response by the police following the first riots is one of the biggest problems in America right now. Tons and tons of military hardware has been given to police forces around the country since 9/11. It's scary how armed they are now.

6. Michael Brown shouldn't have hit the cop or gone for his gun. That was just an idiotic thing to do and IN MY OPINION the cop is justified in fearing for his safety at that point.

Again, this could have been prevented but in my opinion Michael Brown was most at fault for how he died. The cop used excessive force by shooting him 12 times and should be fired, not jailed.

[HolyLight]

I'll ask nicely b4 I report this post could you change the post to something relevant on the topic and not "trigger" things

also this post is going to crash and burn quickly as I see it dissolving into a bigot affair..

Why ? This whole case was based on "Its because he was black" being the reason why the cop killed him. I am only putting this title because its what has been screamed about for the past several months over all media channels.

I personally like how him being shot 6 times as seen by multipul eye witness's, yet all were proven total bullcrap.

He was shot 12 times not 6, twice in the car as he was punching and grabbing for the cops gun and 10 times 30 meters down the road after he ran and then turned on the cop. He may have been surrendering but according to some witnesses he was turning to face the cop, possibly to attack him.

I'm pretty liberal, but this isn't Trevon Martin who was also unarmed, confronted and killed by a private citizen because of how he looked. I understand the basic premise of how young black males are perceived in American society and am wiling to have that argument, but this case is very different in some ways.

Many facts are much worse for the victim here. Brown had marijuana in his system. He and his friend had just stolen some stuff from a convenience store and shoved/hit the owner when he confronted them. The police officer WAS responding to that call and WAS given a description of Brown as the person who had just robbed them. He had no way of knowing if he was armed or not. He quickly ran into Brown and his friend who were walking down the middle of the street just blocks away from the robbery. As he confronted them to get out of the road another, more accurate description came over the radio and he started to get out of his car. Brown then attacked him through the window punching him at least once and possibly going for his gun. Brown was shot in the arm inside of the police car (his blood was found inside it) and then turned to run. He then either turned to attack the cop or turned to surrender, either way he did not lay down on the ground like the cop was telling him too.

I definitely think the cop used excessive force, but again, he had no way of knowing if Brown had a gun. Brown did attack him.

Some things that could have prevented this all from happening.

1. Less guns, if guns are hard to get then eventually we'll run out of them.

2. Body cameras for police officers. This generally makes police officers more conscience of how they are using force.

3. 2 cops per car. This would probably of prevented this all from happening. Unfortunately some towns like Ferguson can't afford that.

4. More black police officers on the force. Ferguson is a newly 'Black' town which is a suburb of St. Louis. Most of the established police and politicians are white. The town has changed dramatically over the last 20 years. The police force hasn't

5. The militarized response by the police following the first riots is one of the biggest problems in America right now. Tons and tons of military hardware has been given to police forces around the country since 9/11. It's scary how armed they are now.

6. Michael Brown shouldn't have hit the cop or gone for his gun. That was just an idiotic thing to do and IN MY OPINION the cop is justified in fearing for his safety at that point.

Again, this could have been prevented but in my opinion Michael Brown was most at fault for how he died. The cop used excessive force by shooting him 12 times and should be fired, not jailed.

He Never shot him 12 times, you mean he shot at him 12 times.

If i shot some one 6 times and he was still standing, damn ***** stright i would shoot him another 6 times for good measure as i would be very concerned that he was still standing after the first 6.

Also, i would like to add, the only reason young african americans are portrayed in this fashion is because they continue to claim they are portrayed in this fashon, then they do stupid things and live up to these expectations.

If Michael had not robbed a shop, had not attacked a cop in his car, he wouldnt have got shot.

He as a person could have prevented this whole thing from happening, reguardless of guns, cops or anything else involved.

Then again, this whole case/incident had nothing to do with race, however as normal race gets dragged into it.