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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Orcling » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:20 am

Eating around 250 eggs a day can kill you, ban eggs now. They're poisonous.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Darwoth » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:27 am

Orcling wrote:Eating around 250 eggs a day can kill you, ban eggs now. They're poisonous.


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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Inotdead » Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:50 am

Syndarn wrote:...


It's just what I've been saying before, you won't accept the fact, even if it'd hit you in the face, yet you put your full trust in nonsense, just because you want to believe in it. :D

Orcling wrote:Eating around 250 eggs a day can kill you, ban eggs now. They're poisonous.

So is table salt. You only need to ingest about 1 g per kg of body weight to die.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Procne » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:04 am

Inotdead wrote:So is table salt. You only need to ingest about 1 g per kg of body weight to die.

Interesting. But I think it's not that easy. You would automatically puke. You have to somehow keep it inside ...
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Syndarn » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:36 am

Mereni wrote:Fourth, related to the third point, I find it downright frightening that you think vaccination is a 'negative belief' and that it will traumatize you.

I didn't mean that the vaccine itself traumatizes. I mean that how is a decision based upon fear a good thing?

Mereni wrote:Vaccines ARE natural, and they DO work WITH your immune system.

How is a vaccine natural? i think it's quite artificial.. vaccines don't grow on trees. Also when a vaccine is applied straight into your bloodstream it bypasses all the human body's natural filters in how it's naturally supposed to deal with a disease.

Mereni wrote:Did you know that Thimerosol is no longer an ingredient in vaccines just because of people like you being so concerned about it despite numerous studies showing that it is harmless? Did you know that Phenol is also a food additive? That Ethylene Glycol is actually not present in vaccines but many toxic-vaccine websites claim it is? That Formaldehyde is indeed present in vaccines in trace amounts, but that auto exhaust, the paint and wood in your walls, fingernail polish and many other things emit FAR more of it into your environment on a daily basis? That the evidence of Aluminum's association with cancer or Alzheimer's is actually not proven at all and probably doesn't exist? That the antibiotics present in vaccines are only in trace amounts and the adverse reactions cited here are from full dosages of the medicines?


It still is apparently. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vaccine-decision/ingredients.html, i know there is a lot of toxins in our foods. That's why i try to eat as much organic as possible and only use healthy products.

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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby lachlaan » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:52 pm

Okay, I'm done with this vaccine talk, mostly because I can see that you can't be swayed in your views Syndarn.

I do however want to pick your brain on another topic, since you seem to be knowledgeable with this sort of stuff. I was never a big vaccine conspiracy theorist, but I do however have concerns about one particular chemical i've heard about which is supposedly in just about everything we consume.

The thing is called di-hydrogen monoxide, and I'm not even kidding that it's in pretty much all our food, in our water supply, and hell, even our own bodies are pumped full of the damn stuff and nobody is talking about it!

So I wanted to know what your take on it is, since you seem to have researched the sort of "underground" info that governments and so called scientists keep from us on purpose, is there any danger in having di-hydrogen monoxide everywhere in our day to day lives? :\

Furthermore, I've seen several cases where scientists dismiss the dangers of di-hydrogen monoxide in most circumstances, even if not all (the damn thing can still kill you in a variety of unpleasant ways), yet I've never seen a study the likes of which you've asked for here. And I really think it would help to make such a study even when it comes to di-hydrogen monoxide! A study where say .. 5000 people are separated into two groups, one that continues its normal intake of di-hydrogen monoxide, and one that removes the aforementioned chemical entirely from their diet, and basically cut all intake of it to 0. I'm curious to see what the results of such a study would be over the span of say a year, at least. I personally think the people off the chemical would be a lot more carefree as a result, but I am really curious to know your take on it, what do you think such a study would do to both groups? :D And what are your thoughts on di-hydrogen monoxide in general?
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Dallane » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:47 pm

Darwoth wrote:
Orcling wrote:Eating around 250 eggs a day can kill you, ban eggs now. They're poisonous.


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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Syndarn » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:22 pm

lachlaan wrote:... And what are your thoughts on di-hydrogen monoxide in general?

That water is bad for you? :D I can tell you that, there is different types of water. It's not just it's mineral composition. Water actually breaks down going through pipes and looses hydrogen bonds and with it goes it's structure. So if you want to drink good water you can restructure it back to it's hexagonal shape. Anything more or less does not benefit your body the same way. Nice try btw.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Mereni » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:30 pm

Syndarn wrote:I didn't mean that the vaccine itself traumatizes. I mean that how is a decision based upon fear a good thing?


Because fear is a healthy thing in reasonable quantities. I fear dying in a car crash, not enough to not drive anywhere, but enough to take the proper safety measures and wear my seatbelt. I fear falling off a cliff enough to stay a safe distance away from the edge if I'm up somewhere enjoying a view. I fear dehydration headaches enough to drink a healthy amount of water each day. I fear malnutrition enough to make sure I eat a balanced diet. I fear poisonous snakes enough to use caution when I am in habitat where I might encounter them. Same goes for cougars and other wild animals around here.

I don't think you realize how many decisions every person makes each day that are based upon fear, and how healthy that really is. Any psychologist will tell you that a lack of fear is extremely unhealthy.

Syndarn wrote:How is a vaccine natural? i think it's quite artificial.. vaccines don't grow on trees. Also when a vaccine is applied straight into your bloodstream it bypasses all the human body's natural filters in how it's naturally supposed to deal with a disease.


The vaccine itself and the way it is administered are artificial. No one is arguing that. Although the only thing it bypasses is your skin, which is something any infection can do if you have a cut, so you body is perfectly capable of dealing with a vaccine administered directly to the blood. Such a thing is a routine occurrence as far as your immune system is concerned. And like I said, the way the vaccine trains your immune system to deal with a disease is perfectly natural. It's the exact same process that would happen with the wild virus, only with far less discomfort and danger to you.

Syndarn wrote:It still is apparently. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vaccine-decision/ingredients.html, i know there is a lot of toxins in our foods. That's why i try to eat as much organic as possible and only use healthy products.


*Today, the only childhood vaccines used routinely in the United States that contain thimerosal (mercury) are flu vaccines in multi-dose vials. These vials have very tiny amounts of thimerosal as a preservative. This is necessary because each time an individual dose is drawn from a multi-dose vial with a new needle and syringe, there is the potential to contaminate the vial with harmful microbes (toxins).


Which is why you just ask for the thimerosal free version. :roll:

I get all my produce from an organic farmer's market and my meat from a good local butcher, but I know that whether or not something is poisonous depends upon dosage. Vaccines just don't contain anything dangerous enough to warrant the risk of not using them.

Syndarn wrote:Water actually breaks down going through pipes and looses hydrogen bonds and with it goes it's structure. So if you want to drink good water you can restructure it back to it's hexagonal shape. Anything more or less does not benefit your body the same way.


Good god, man. Water looks like this:

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That is not a hexagon, and water does not 'break down'. Water is H20, but another way to write that is HOH, where a positively charged hydrogen ion H+ is bonded to a negatively charged hydroxide ion OH-, and it is perfectly normal for a small percentage of water molecules to break apart like that and join up again in any volume of pure water. Of course, anything dissolved in the water, like CO2 from the air, minerals from the ground, or your stomach acid will increase that behavior. That's the basis of the acid/alkaline reaction and it benefits your body the Exact same way as absolutely pure, neutral, deionized water. In fact, a little alkali is good for you.

Really Syndarn, stop reading those crackpot sites, they're melting your brain.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Syndarn » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:55 pm

Mereni wrote:Because fear is a healthy thing in reasonable quantities. I fear dying in a car crash, not enough to not drive anywhere, but enough to take the proper safety measures and wear my seatbelt. I fear falling off a cliff enough to stay a safe distance away from the edge if I'm up somewhere enjoying a view. I fear dehydration headaches enough to drink a healthy amount of water each day. I fear malnutrition enough to make sure I eat a balanced diet. I fear poisonous snakes enough to use caution when I am in habitat where I might encounter them. Same goes for cougars and other wild animals around here.

I don't think you realize how many decisions every person makes each day that are based upon fear, and how healthy that really is. Any psychologist will tell you that a lack of fear is extremely unhealthy.


Ofc i know, i actually realized last Sunday how my own trauma has ruled my life in over 22+ years.
Fear is not a bad thing, but it should not rule or dictate how you live your life.

Mereni wrote:Although the only thing it bypasses is your skin, which is something any infection can do if you have a cut, so you body is perfectly capable of dealing with a vaccine administered directly to the blood.

So you are saying that there is no early warning system in the body that analyzes the bacteria before it gets into the bloodstream? :)

Mereni wrote:I get all my produce from an organic farmer's market and my meat from a good local butcher, but I know that whether or not something is poisonous depends upon dosage. Vaccines just don't contain anything dangerous enough to warrant the risk of not using them.

That's good, i m happy for you. I would only use poison on myself as a last resort.


Mereni wrote:Good god, man. Water looks like this:

Mereni wrote:Really Syndarn, stop reading those crackpot sites, they're melting your brain.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice

ctrl+f , type in hexagonal.
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