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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Dallane » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:20 am

Guise my cat was looking in the corner at nothing. Do you think aliens invaded?
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Orcling » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:56 am

Dallane wrote:Guise my cat was looking in the corner at nothing. Do you think aliens invaded?

Cats can see ghosts.

Picture related, It's a cat who just spotted a ghost, the camera managed to pick it up.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Dallane » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:00 am

did you guys know......there are skeletons inside our bodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Thor » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:57 am

Dallane wrote:did you guys know......there are skeletons inside our bodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GOD NO
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Dallane » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:02 pm

Thor wrote:
Dallane wrote:did you guys know......there are skeletons inside our bodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GOD NO


OMG THOR DONT SCREAM!!! I CAN SEE IT TRYING TO GET OUT!!!!
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby trungdle » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:25 pm

Dallane wrote:
Thor wrote:
Dallane wrote:did you guys know......there are skeletons inside our bodies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GOD NO


OMG THOR DONT SCREAM!!! I CAN SEE IT TRYING TO GET OUT!!!!

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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Syndarn » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:28 pm

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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Mereni » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:27 pm



Yeah, real interesting. A guy stands up and talks about some supposed dozen children and his little 'case study' with no proof whatsoever and we're just supposed to believe he's telling the complete truth? And come on, 12 kids? The results you can obtain from 12 kids in one little area are no better than random. Plus, it's clear all his evidence is anecdotal and third hand from his wife who heard it from the kids' parents, no examinations were performed by him. We also know nothing about the other factors involved in these children's lives. Like, whether their mothers breast fed them, which is proven to give a child a stronger immune system. Whether they came into contact with each other or not, which can spread a disease that one of them has to the others. Whether their parents understand antibiotics and when to ask for them, and if their doctors gave them antibiotics when they weren't needed just to soothe them. Taking antibiotics is bad for the symbiotic bacteria, particularly the gut flora, especially in a small child with an undeveloped appendix.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Syndarn » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:43 pm

I didn't claim it was fact or valid. Just said it was interesting. The guy who spoke claimed to have not been vaccinated. He looked quite healthy to me. Therefore i must conclude that you can survive in this world just fine by not vaccinating.

EDIT: He also says that no big study has ever been made with non vaccinated vs vaccinated. So if no one ever made a proper study on this, how can we then blindly believe that vaccinations are a must, if there is no study that speaks from a non vaccinated point of view. So we are missing the other side of the coin on this matter.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Mereni » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:52 pm

Syndarn wrote:I didn't claim it was fact or valid. Just said it was interesting. The guy who spoke claimed to have not been vaccinated. He looked quite healthy to me. Therefore i must conclude that you can survive in this world just fine by not vaccinating.


Sure you can in THIS part of the world, where many people are vaccinated so that those who don't or can't, for some reason, get vaccinated will still be pretty safe. However, if enough people stop getting vaccines, that will change.


Syndarn wrote:EDIT: He also says that no big study has ever been made with non vaccinated vs vaccinated. So if no one ever made a proper study on this, how can we then blindly believe that vaccinations are a must, if there is no study that speaks from a non vaccinated point of view. So we are missing the other side of the coin on this matter.


He says that because he's a ***** liar. There have been many, many studies, and there are still more studies going on.

A seven year study on over a half a million children testing vaccination of MMR vs diagnosis of Autism:
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa021134
Result: There was no association between the age at the time of vaccination, the time since vaccination, or the date of vaccination and the development of autistic disorder.

A study of children in Senegal who are vaccinated against measles vs those who aren't:
http://journals.lww.com/pidj/Abstract/1 ... ong.7.aspx

The effects on the mortality rate of the elderly in hospitals where the staff gets their influenza vaccine:
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/175/1/1.short

Efficacy of a Tuberculosis vaccine:
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.asp ... eid=366365

Efficacy of a Varicella vaccine in several preschools:
http://journals.lww.com/pidj/Abstract/1 ... ine.4.aspx

A study showing milder measles infection or no infection at all in vaccinated children in Guinea-Bissau, where measles mortality is normally very high:
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/154/5/858.short

And so many more. Many of them hard to understand, or you can only see the abstract, which may or may not include the results, unless you subscribe to their site, but the point here is that they studies are being done all the time. No one is assuming vaccines are working as intended just because they've saved millions of lives, they're still making sure on effects and side effects.
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