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Re: wtf

Postby JohnCarver » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:43 am

BigPun wrote:I'm with Twizt. . . I don't think you should be able to die while offline - theft or no theft.


Spoken like a true criminal.
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Re: wtf

Postby Kandarim » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:22 am

what about summoning giving you a nice little cutscene when you log in, of your character dropping dead? Would that fulfil "not dying while offline"?
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Re: wtf

Postby summertime » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:25 am

Kandarim wrote:what about summoning giving you a nice little cutscene when you log in, of your character dropping dead? Would that fulfil "not dying while offline"?


yes, in good games it is important that the game gives good feedback to the player... that a person doesn't even know if he is dead (assuming he hasnt read any wiki) shows either a lack of competence or resources of the dev team.
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Re: wtf

Postby KruskDaMangled » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:00 pm

summertime wrote:
Kandarim wrote:what about summoning giving you a nice little cutscene when you log in, of your character dropping dead? Would that fulfil "not dying while offline"?


yes, in good games it is important that the game gives good feedback to the player... that a person doesn't even know if he is dead (assuming he hasnt read any wiki) shows either a lack of competence or resources of the dev team.


Or they could be dealing with what they consider to be more important things right now. I mean, you now understand that your character is dead? Sure, it's a little awkward, but you do. And again, they have been doing Other Things.
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Re: wtf

Postby Kush » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:35 pm

If you committed crimes, then log in to your character being gone, and you can't figure out why, I don't think its lack of dev planning. Sounds more like not understanding how to play the game. Last thing we need is people able to commit crimes then just logging off until the clues expire.
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Re: wtf

Postby Kandarim » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:24 pm

Kush wrote:If you committed crimes, then log in to your character being gone, and you can't figure out why, I don't think its lack of dev planning. Sounds more like not understanding how to play the game. Last thing we need is people able to commit crimes then just logging off until the clues expire.


yeah, log off your criminal alts for over a month in some cases ... that'll work :)
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Re: wtf

Postby Nagualcina » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:19 pm

Problem is knoweldge of mechanic, i didnt found full explanation on one place so putted myself in danger for no reason (so far i`m still alive but with edge over neck). Anyway, some 5-bile-alt stomped to my HS and started to trash stuff that where temporary around claim, i runed out and 1-hit knocked him since i didnt realy expect 5-bile-alt 3 hours far from Boston. That was my mistake since he planted leanto and took my scent (i`m not sure still how long it will last in hes inventory). So prety much he can give my scent to high level character who can kill me in some way now (still didnt figure whole mechanic).

Good idea would be if somone with more experience explain PvP mechanic together with common exploiting scenarion so new player know what to expect.
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Re: wtf

Postby Mereni » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:39 pm

Nagualcina wrote:i didnt found full explanation on one place so putted myself in danger for no reason


You looked in the wrong place: http://www.salem-wiki.com/mediawiki/ind ... Punishment

What's more, you found the forums easily enough when you wanted to *****. Why didn't you come here sooner and ask about crime so as to learn from other people's mistakes rather than from experience?
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Re: wtf

Postby Judaism » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:41 pm

Nagualcina wrote:Problem is knoweldge of mechanic, i didnt found full explanation on one place so putted myself in danger for no reason (so far i`m still alive but with edge over neck). Anyway, some 5-bile-alt stomped to my HS and started to trash stuff that where temporary around claim, i runed out and 1-hit knocked him since i didnt realy expect 5-bile-alt 3 hours far from Boston. That was my mistake since he planted leanto and took my scent (i`m not sure still how long it will last in hes inventory). So prety much he can give my scent to high level character who can kill me in some way now (still didnt figure whole mechanic).

Good idea would be if somone with more experience explain PvP mechanic together with common exploiting scenarion so new player know what to expect.


You are likely going to die soon enough if this is the case.

Switch your leanto to another one, far far away ;)
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Re: wtf

Postby Nagualcina » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:44 am

Mereni wrote:
Nagualcina wrote:i didnt found full explanation on one place so putted myself in danger for no reason


You looked in the wrong place: http://www.salem-wiki.com/mediawiki/ind ... Punishment

What's more, you found the forums easily enough when you wanted to *****. Why didn't you come here sooner and ask about crime so as to learn from other people's mistakes rather than from experience?


I did read that througly during first few hours of play (thou i dont recall that Crime Dos and Dont's section exsisted at that time) but still fall on that 5-bile-alt exploit. Not moaning, just pointing out that some new, more descriptive system explanation on one place would help more.
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