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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Potjeh » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:57 am

Syndarn wrote:Vaccines suck anyway doesn't matter what type of vaccine it is.

Oh god, not one of these. People like you make me wish we hadn't virtually eradicated polio, so you can fully enjoy your non-vaccination.
Syndarn wrote:There is no real natural outbreak as far as i have come to understand.

Yeah, the Black Death epidemic of the 14th century was engineered in government labs as well.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Ukhata » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:01 am

Potjeh wrote:
Syndarn wrote:Vaccines suck anyway doesn't matter what type of vaccine it is.

Oh god, not one of these. People like you make me wish we hadn't virtually eradicated polio, so you can fully enjoy your non-vaccination.
Syndarn wrote:There is no real natural outbreak as far as i have come to understand.

Yeah, the Black Death epidemic of the 14th century was engineered in government labs as well.


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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Orcling » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:42 am

The CDC owns the patent to ebola though.

http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1?cl=en

You cant put a patent on something that occurs in nature, I mean, you can't just put a patent on ***** trees or grass or squirrels like you ***** invented that ****.

On a sidenote, germany is sending a few thousand helpers down there, but with armed guards. The only folks that to get sent into that ***** are either doc's or ex-military, they wont send idiots that only go there to die and or come home and spread the disease even further, and then die.

Though if it was me i wouldn't send any help, let nature sort it out. And if **** really does hit the fan, I'll just move to madagascar.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:14 pm

Orcling wrote:The CDC owns the patent to ebola though.

http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1?cl=en

You cant put a patent on something that occurs in nature, I mean, you can't just put a patent on ***** trees or grass or squirrels like you ***** invented that ****.

That's something I don't understand.
It would be fine if tha patent was about methods of detection of the virus. But the listed patent includes also the structure and strains of the virus.
Which gets more weird - in 2010 US Supreme Court has ruled that things like isolated DNA cannot be considered inventions and thus cannot be patented. AFAIR Europe and Australia still allow those to be patented. Then why the single country, which has forbidden patenting DNA, is now patenting isolated virus strains?

And putting the tinfoil hat away - if the virus was engineered by government, as some people claim, why the hell would it patent it if it wanted to avoid the accusations?
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Judaism » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:17 pm

Orcling wrote:The CDC owns the patent to ebola though.

http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1?cl=en

You cant put a patent on something that occurs in nature, I mean, you can't just put a patent on ***** trees or grass or squirrels like you ***** invented that ****.


Thats why I think they might have more to do with Ebola. Bio weapons have proven quite usefull.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby tack » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:25 pm

ebola is a virus found in fruit bats which are native to the effective areas, as its a bat virus they dont die.
fruit bats are eatern as bush meat by the locals passing the virus to humans.

just like AIDS is a monkey based virus passed to humans through eating bush meat
just as Crentzfield - jaakob disease is the same as bovine spongiform enphalopothy got from eating contaminated beef

not that any of you lot would be intrested anyway
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Orcling » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:31 pm

Procne wrote:And putting the tinfoil hat away - if the virus was engineered by government, as some people claim, why the hell would it patent it if it wanted to avoid the accusations?


Because you can monetize the 'vaccine', and money is more important than being the bad guy.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:38 pm

Orcling wrote:
Procne wrote:And putting the tinfoil hat away - if the virus was engineered by government, as some people claim, why the hell would it patent it if it wanted to avoid the accusations?


Because you can monetize the 'vaccine', and money is more important than being the bad guy.

What does the ebola patent have to do with any of it? They could patent the vaccine anyway.

What would the ebola patent give anyway?
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Syndarn » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:51 pm

Potjeh wrote:
Syndarn wrote:Vaccines suck anyway doesn't matter what type of vaccine it is.

Oh god, not one of these. People like you make me wish we hadn't virtually eradicated polio, so you can fully enjoy your non-vaccination.
Syndarn wrote:There is no real natural outbreak as far as i have come to understand.

Yeah, the Black Death epidemic of the 14th century was engineered in government labs as well.


In spiritual circles the argument on that is: That when polio vaccine was first introduced people actually got more resistant naturally to the illness at the same time, so it is debated that the vaccine had none or very little effect in the end. So whet ever it really worked or not is not really proven on both perspectives together. We just have the polio one.

So if you say that we really need vaccines without proving that our bodies can naturally cope with it. That's leaving our natural healing out of the equation. Thus your argument is incomplete. Stale mate.
I can't prove my point, and you can't prove yours. I will stick to speak against vaccines.
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Re: an ebola reminder

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:55 pm

Syndarn wrote:So if you say that we really need vaccines without proving that our bodies can naturally cope with it. That's leaving our natural healing out of the equation. Thus your argument is incomplete. Stale mate.
I can't prove my point, and you can't prove yours. I will stick to speak against vaccines.


Vaccines leaving natural healing out of equation? Do you know how vaccines work? It's "unarmed" or "dead" versions of diseases (viruses / bacteria) so that your "natural healing" can "naturally cope" with them without getting killed by them first.
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