an ebola reminder

[trungdle]

Btw Darworh why do you feel angry when people call you a racist?

[Darwoth]

i don't.

[Mereni]

The only other victims were medical professionals working on the guy, and I highly doubt they were the only two. Funnily enough, only those two got it! Which is remarkable considering how long Duncan was being treated.

If two medical professionals get Ebola for every one patient, and the mortality rate is about 50% even with high tech treatment, I don't call that remarkable, I call that grim.

since many from Texas are so worried about the contagion spreading, how about we ban all air flight from Texas? Maybe cut off the highways and blow up the rails, too. Sure, there's other ways out of Texas, but for the good of the country, as long as it lowers the chance, it's totally worth it .

You don't seem to have any concept of what the word 'quarantine' means. Both I and Darwoth are of the opinion that travelers from the areas where this disease is running rampant should undergo a 21 day quarantine when they arrive. That is the only real way of being sure it doesn't spread as merely checking for fever or asking a few questions doesn't work, as we've seen. Yes, a few idiots might try to sneak around by some circuitous route, but we can only hope, really, when it comes to deliberate spreading of disease.

You know, for the longest time I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I ask you this in all honesty: are you an idiot?

Maybe Darwoth is responding combatively because not only are your strawman arguments annoying, your general **** flinging while pretending to be reasonable are calculated to anger anyone who really does think logically.

From what I've seen, there's been a good deal of incompetence in dealing with Ebola in the US and there's a good chance it could spread. People who were sick were traveling, coming into contact with others, possibly spreading the virus. 21 days have not passed since Vinson flew twice on a plane and then tested positive. Ebola may not be exactly airborne, and may not trigger a cough or sneeze reflex, but it certainly will spread that way if you are already coughing and sneezing and guess what? It's the middle of Ragweed season.

[jesi]

as an aside however there is no educational or cultural excuse for the people responsible for this epidemic, they saw a chance to steal **** for themselves and now tens of thousands and likely millions before it is over will die because of them. it aint like anyone over there is unfamiliar with what ebola is, most certainly moreso than the average "westerner"

And why is this a problem for you? Western medicine has already shown that it can cure the disease, and that a vacine already in existence, although in short supply at the moment, is effective. Since you are at no risk and the millions that will die are mostly black, what is the problem in your mind?

[Procne]

Western medicine has already shown that it can cure the disease, and that a vacine already in existence, although in short supply at the moment, is effective.

It is? Last time I heared doctors were not completely sure how the few patients have been cured, since they were trying many different methods at the same time. Do you think that when there is a real outbreak and thousands of people get infected it will be feasible to isolate and cure all of those? As for the drugs - so far we have only experimental drugs - have they been properly tested and do we know all of their side effects?

[jesi]

Western medicine has already shown that it can cure the disease, and that a vacine already in existence, although in short supply at the moment, is effective.

It is? Last time I heared doctors were not completely sure how the few patients have been cured, since they were trying many different methods at the same time. Do you think that when there is a real outbreak and thousands of people get infected it will be feasible to isolate and cure all of those? As for the drugs - so far we have only experimental drugs - have they been properly tested and do we know all of their side effects?

There currently is a real outbreak, and thousands of people are infected, but it is in Africa. So again my question is why is Darwoth so pissed about black Africans looting and spreading the disease amongst themselves. And if his reason is that he feels it puts him or his interests at some risk of catching the disease, I am wondering how that could be so?

[Jackxter]

The only other victims were medical professionals working on the guy, and I highly doubt they were the only two. Funnily enough, only those two got it! Which is remarkable considering how long Duncan was being treated.

If two medical professionals get Ebola for every one patient, and the mortality rate is about 50% even with high tech treatment, I don't call that remarkable, I call that grim.

since many from Texas are so worried about the contagion spreading, how about we ban all air flight from Texas? Maybe cut off the highways and blow up the rails, too. Sure, there's other ways out of Texas, but for the good of the country, as long as it lowers the chance, it's totally worth it .

You don't seem to have any concept of what the word 'quarantine' means. Both I and Darwoth are of the opinion that travelers from the areas where this disease is running rampant should undergo a 21 day quarantine when they arrive. That is the only real way of being sure it doesn't spread as merely checking for fever or asking a few questions doesn't work, as we've seen. Yes, a few idiots might try to sneak around by some circuitous route, but we can only hope, really, when it comes to deliberate spreading of disease.

You know, for the longest time I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I ask you this in all honesty: are you an idiot?

Maybe Darwoth is responding combatively because not only are your strawman arguments annoying, your general **** flinging while pretending to be reasonable are calculated to anger anyone who really does think logically.

From what I've seen, there's been a good deal of incompetence in dealing with Ebola in the US and there's a good chance it could spread. People who were sick were traveling, coming into contact with others, possibly spreading the virus. 21 days have not passed since Vinson flew twice on a plane and then tested positive. Ebola may not be exactly airborne, and may not trigger a cough or sneeze reflex, but it certainly will spread that way if you are already coughing and sneezing and guess what? It's the middle of Ragweed season.

I only **** fling when people fling first. Sounds like a good way to spread Ebola, by the way . Also, you two seem to have your own definition of quarantine that you subscribe to. Here's the actual one:

A quarantine is used to separate and restrict the movement of persons; it is a 'state of enforced isolation'. This is often used in connection to disease and illness, such as those who may possibly have been exposed to a communicable disease.

That can mean any number of things. Now, I don't have the time nor do I care to run through the whole thread to find out what exactly both you and Darwoth seem to be arguing for, but it's funny that I asked him above what exactly his position was and only got flak in return. If the two of you are arguing for a 21 hour quarantine from contaminated zones, that's a little more reasonable. I wish your pal Darwoth would have stated that above instead of going right into an oh so 'logical' anti-liberal spew, because of course, all liberals are alike and have the same viewpoints, just like all conservatives are, too, obviously. Speaking of which, I'm neither one. I'm with whichever side decides to react with logic instead of undue fear.

However, though the 21 hour quarantine is a somewhat reasonable course of action that isn't totally idiotic, it's still unnecessary given the situation. Seriously, get your head out of your ass and into a history book. Do you have any clue how many of these scares have come and gone? Ones that have been overplayed by the media which, funnily enough, did more damage than what would have happened otherwise? SARs, Mad Cow Disease, Swine Flu, you name it. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be given due consideration, but only proportional to the threat they pose.

Re-read my argument, think about it. Yes, two medical workers were exposed, but do you think that's going to happen again? Hell no. That'll spook medical workers treating Ebola patients into taking better safety precautions. This is the good kind of fear, a fear that will help people who are actually in danger of the virus. What you should not do is waste valuable time and resources in a bid to completely neutralize any chance of the media's new boogyman (and note, I mean the liberal media, the conservative media, it doesn't matter: they're all guilty) popping up when they could be utilized elsewhere on more significant threats. It's not that you should disregard Ebola, but the whole point of bringing up the Flu and things like that isn't to try to marginalize Ebola, it's to point out that hey, maybe we should be focusing on other things that are a more concerning and not waste resources on witch hunts (ya god damned morons).

Then I want you to do a little homework for me: research what happens when you start restricting travel to local economies, when people give into fear of something that's not really there. Check out what happened during the SARs scare, etc. Really, really think. I know you have it in you. And understand your enemy before you overreact to it, kid.

But hey, if you don't believe me, how about you listen to pretty much every single legitimate medical professional who's saying: "Ya probably shouldn't be too worried about this... calm the ***** down." Luckily, they're the ones who will ultimately be calling the shots on how to handle the situation. Ya know, unlike you two, because... well... you don't have any formal education about contagions, modern medicine, or proper epidemic handling.

Of course though, they're just trying to get attention... ya know, like the same people who say Global Warming is a threat.

[Syndarn]

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[trungdle]

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Ahahaha. I bow before you. Could be true though. We don't know yet.

[Judaism]

This thread became quite boring I must say.