Did anyone else Lose their last location?

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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby Necromateur » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:35 pm

TotalyMeow wrote:
Necromateur wrote:Don't start breaking forum rules just because you don't understand the explanation you've been given several times now for what happened. There is no bug, your inventory wasn't wiped, don't dodge the profanity filter.

~TotalyMeow


I didn't realize we weren't allowed to curse. Seeing that I always censor my curse words wherever I go, I'm not trying to 'bypass' the profanity filter'.

"just because you don't understand the explanation. . . " -- and here's where YOU don't understand what I'm saying. I get the whole "can't TP with stuff in inventory when away from homestead." I understand being knocked out and having to go back and get my items as I've dealt with it on 4 different occasions. I understand all that.

But what you are REFUSING to believe is the fact that none of these things happened. I was logged out by the server, the server didn't take note of my last location, so it wiped my inventory in order to spawn me at the claimstone. I understand WHY my inv. was wiped, but it shouldn't have because the server forgetting my location was of no fault of mine.

But seriously, you guys have taken this thing way too far. Calling me a liar, telling me to shut up, and being trolls. It's unnecessary.

At least you have been decent, Totaly[sic]. I ask you not to start.
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby Feone » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:55 pm

Necromateur the person who wrote the game server and client already told you there is no such message.

Just look at it from our perspective.
Option 1) Annoyed person logged out under some object (or got logged out while the server crashed) and lost his inventory because of it, misread the message and complained on the forum to get the items back.
Option 2) The original game developper is lieing in an elaborate scheme to cover up some freak bug, which never happened before, because... no reason in particular.

But by all means, keep insisting, sounds like a great way to get a dunce cap.

Losing an inventory sucks, but it happens.
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby Icon » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:04 pm

Feone wrote:Necromateur the person who wrote the game server and client already told you there is no such message.

Just look at it from our perspective.
Option 1) Annoyed person logged out under some object (or got logged out while the server crashed) and lost his inventory because of it, misread the message and complained on the forum to get the items back.
Option 2) The original game developper is lieing in an elaborate scheme to cover up some freak bug, which never happened before, because... no reason in particular.

But by all means, keep insisting, sounds like a great way to get a dunce cap.

Losing an inventory sucks, but it happens.


The dunce hat wont even be rare anymore if I&I keeps up at this rate today
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby Procne » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:05 pm

The funny thing is noone really called you a lier or told you to shut up. And noone has been a troll here.
The problem is YOU trust your subjective judgement more than any objective arguments made here.

Game developer tells you there is no such error implemented.
Noone ever had this kind of error.

But that's not enough for you. You saw the error message only for a few seconds. You cannot quote it from memory and yet you are absolutely certain about what it said. And it would be enough to misread one word to understand it differently. After all you only remember what you understood, not what was written. I know I keep messing some words if I read fast. Why are you so certain it couldn't happen to you? Do you never make mistakes?

You have no proof. You cannot present full text of the error message. No way to reproduce the error. Nothing to start debugging with. Is your confidence in what you think you saw higher than dev's confidence in what he made? Is the dev supposed to check the whole code now, against his belief that such error is impossible? Would you do that yourself?

Against all odds you refuse to admit a mistake on your side was possible. This stubborness leads to the only logical outcomes:
1. Dev was wrong and the error did happen but only to you in the whole history of the game
2. You lie / troll
3. You made a mistake but you are unable to admit it / believe it

Most people will go with 2. and 3. because these are the most probable. I know loftar makes mistakes, but until more people report it, with some evidence attached, I stick to believing him.
Besides you argue only for the error message.
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby JohnCarver » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:08 pm

The server does not forget where a character logs off. The players who have been more than helpful answering your questions, as well as Loftar who is all-knowing, are correct on this matter. Further pressing of this magical error message that you saw, which doesn't exist, will earn you a semi-unique in-game hat.
ceedat wrote:the overwhelming frustration of these forums and the unnecessarily over complicated game mechanics is what i enjoy about this game most.

Nsuidara wrote:it is a strange and difficult game in no positive way
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby Necromateur » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:10 am

Feone wrote:Necromateur the person who wrote the game server and client already told you there is no such message.

Just look at it from our perspective.
Option 1) Annoyed person logged out under some object (or got logged out while the server crashed) and lost his inventory because of it, misread the message and complained on the forum to get the items back.
Option 2) The original game developper is lieing in an elaborate scheme to cover up some freak bug, which never happened before, because... no reason in particular.

But by all means, keep insisting, sounds like a great way to get a dunce cap.

Losing an inventory sucks, but it happens.


1) I've lost my inventory several times. Annoyed? Sure. but I knew why? Yep. This time, did I log out? Nope. I was starting a fire (located directly beside claimstone), and then all of a sudden, all animations stop -- on both characters. I click here and there -- nothing. I close out the clients (thinking perhaps it was Java that crased (no java error message occurred) ). I open them back up, sign-in, and get "could not connect to server" message.

So I go twiddle my thumbs for 30 minutes or so. I come back and I log in on my alt account first -- it went right in. I then sign into my main account. . . message pops up. The server did not log my last location. Due to this reason, it informs me I must spawn my character at my homestead and lose all of my inventory. It asks if I want to proceed. . . I click 'no'. . . keep in mind. . . this is on the "character selection" screen, not in the game at all. . . After clicking 'no', the message goes away and I am still looking at the character selection screen (I thought perhaps it would figure out where I was at if I clicked 'no'.) That didn't help, so I click play under my main character, and the same message comes up. . . still in the character selection screen. . . This time I click 'yes'. I then find myself one or two tiles away from where I was when the server crapped out, and lo'n'behold. . . no inventory. . . nothin'.

2) I don't think the developer is lying, I just think he's ignorant -- in the literal sense, not the derogatory sense. I know what I read and I know what happened. No items were found at the gate, at the fireplace, nor at the claimstone. So to all the others suggesting that's what happened -- it didn't.

Also, I'd like to point out that I wasn't actually annoyed until people started calling me a liar. I was merely curious. At this stage in the game, I don't really have anything worth getting upset over. But a bug like this is definitely a problem for the devs and the game. If they want to play 'derps' and do nothing, then when it happens to someone with some real items in his/her inventory, then they can't come back and say "b-b-but we didn't know".

JohnCarver wrote:The server does not forget where a character logs off. The players who have been more than helpful answering your questions, as well as Loftar who is all-knowing, are correct on this matter. Further pressing of this magical error message that you saw, which doesn't exist, will earn you a semi-unique in-game hat.


Apparently it does. . . I'd like to think it wouldn't, but it did and I lost my stuff because of it. I don't care about the stuff, but y'all need to look into it before someone really gets butthurt about it. Funny how programmers always think their code is infallible, pure, and perfect. Too bad that's almost an impossibility. It happened, so quit trying to deny something is wrong with the server. Server crashes and you expect us to believe there's no possible way the server will lose track of some of the things in it? LOL. Funny man.
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby troubleis » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:22 am

Necromateur wrote:*Proving that he doesn't know when to shut up*


Enjoy your hat :lol: :lol:
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as captain of this ship, I plan on riding it to our destination as a submarine if I have to.
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby Necromateur » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:29 am

JohnCarver wrote: Further pressing of this magical error message that you saw, which doesn't exist, will earn you a semi-unique in-game hat.


Hey, I'm actually very interested in this. :) I wouldn't mind getting a special ass-hat, hat. . . or dunce cap (just don't make it white and pointed at the top with cut-out eyes. . that won't go over very well with some people. . . js. lol)

:)
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby JohnCarver » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:31 am

Hat earned for your silly conspiracy theory.
ceedat wrote:the overwhelming frustration of these forums and the unnecessarily over complicated game mechanics is what i enjoy about this game most.

Nsuidara wrote:it is a strange and difficult game in no positive way
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Re: Did anyone else Lose their last location?

Postby Procne » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:33 am

JohnCarver wrote:Hat earned for your silly conspiracy theory.

You know that this way, when you start marketing and many new people will be coming, you will turn into hat dispenser?
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