Lucerne

[Potjeh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfalfa

It'd be nice to have a decent crop for making hay (cereals suck for this), because growing autumn grass in pots en masse is tedious (way too many clicks). And when livestock is implemented, it could be used as feed for them. I guess tier 2 could have one variant that is better for hay and one that is better for feed raw, and tier 3 could be better for both.

[Procne]

Can't you just forage some grass and throw at hay stack?

[Potjeh]

Not enough grassland around my place.

[RonPaulFTW]

Can't you just forage some grass and throw at hay stack?

Salem is no longer a walking simulator!

[Potjeh]

That too, foraging specific herbs in huge quantities is boring. Farming is more fun.

[JohnCarver]

We did increase the hay yield per higher cereal tier. We thought it felt pretty balanced. Your main point is that hay stacks are still too tedious to fill?

Are there more people who second this?

[Feone]

We did increase the hay yield per higher cereal tier. We thought it felt pretty balanced. Your main point is that hay stacks are still too tedious to fill?

Are there more people who second this?

I do. Farming feels ineffective compared to foraging or gardening.

[Potjeh]

You need most hay when you're tiering up the fields, not so much to keep them up. And the first crops of higher tier cereals are needed for cooking food, can't really spare them for hay. So yeah, early on there's still a bit too much foraging for grass. Anyway, I was mostly trying to come up with an idea for a new crop (because I'd love to have more crops) that has a niche that's not just adding a couple more cooking recipes.

[JohnCarver]

You need most hay when you're tiering up the fields, not so much to keep them up. And the first crops of higher tier cereals are needed for cooking food, can't really spare them for hay. So yeah, early on there's still a bit too much foraging for grass. Anyway, I was mostly trying to come up with an idea for a new crop (because I'd love to have more crops) that has a niche that's not just adding a couple more cooking recipes.

While more crops are nice. We are trying to make sure the new crops are 'special'. More-so than simply the 'spam this for hay' mechanic. We have several in the pipe but it seems unfair to push our farming updates when that system is already so far ahead of the other professions.

It is quite simple for us to add additional items that can be thrown on the haystack as well as adjusting the yield. I feel a hay per autumn grass was quite generous so adjusting that up doesn't seem right. If you don't like gathering, or gardening, autumn grass for hay the question then becomes, what other industry or activity would be acceptable to throw on a haystack. The more the merrier in my opinion so long as it is balanced and doesn't break immersion.

[Potjeh]

Well, the wiki link was there to show that it's quite an important crop for animal feed IRL. Anyway, while it currently would just be spammed for hay, it could be tied into animal husbandry in interesting ways. For example, you could make hay inherit origin (ie the "made from" tag) to make different tiers of hay, which could somehow tie into tiering animals (if you make them with tiers, that is).

But for the current hay problem, which TBH isn't *that* big, I think just upping wild oats drop rate a bit would work. Alternatively, corn stalks.