more metal gear

[nonsonogiucas]

Maybe something resembling the cementation process to make blister (or shear) steel.

The wikipedia page describes a process of alternating wrought-iron bars with charcoal in tall stone containers that were then sealed on top with a refractory mixture of powdered charcoal, soot and mineral salts. The stone container was then heated from below, the process taking a week or more depending on the amount of iron.

Let's say wrought-iron is our common ore-smelted iron.
We could then have either:
A - a separate building for the cementation process
B - special containers to put into the existing ore smelter.

Into the A or B container you put iron and charcoal in different proportions.
The container has to be sealed with a mixture of powdered charcoal and coarse salt (or maybe mineral salt extracted from mines).
The fire is lit...

Now comes the fun part where the proportion of iron vs charcoal and the time you maintain the furnace lit both influence the quality of the steel produced.
More carbon could make the steel hold the edge better but be somewhat brittle... (or, in the absence of durability, other drawbacks...)
Less carbon would increase ductility and flexibility, maybe a better solution for construction uses?

Before you can use blister steel though you must first hammer it multiple times because it has absorbed carbon in its surface only (the iron doesn't melt in the process). In a process similar to the folding and hammering used to make katana blades hammering multiple times improves the result.

This last process would be very time and phlegm consuming.
In alternative you could melt again blister steel into a crucible to make crucible steel.


To make the steel production more unique as a mechanic, a system could be devised where the various minor components in the steel alloy would interact with one another, giving to the final product bonuses similar to those achieved in slotting. This way you would have tailors slotting clothes and blacksmiths making a range of steel alloys for various purposes.

[jesi]

Let us make firearms. And maybe steel gorgets. They correspond to the period.

[ukraChild]

I like this suggestion.

You arent real templar knight.

You are not real noble either. Same soiling of good threads. Please stop mucking up this thread it's not the appropriate forum section for this.

[TemplarKnight]

Maybe something resembling the cementation process to make blister (or shear) steel.

The wikipedia page describes a process of alternating wrought-iron bars with charcoal in tall stone containers that were then sealed on top with a refractory mixture of powdered charcoal, soot and mineral salts. The stone container was then heated from below, the process taking a week or more depending on the amount of iron.

Let's say wrought-iron is our common ore-smelted iron.
We could then have either:
A - a separate building for the cementation process
B - special containers to put into the existing ore smelter.

Into the A or B container you put iron and charcoal in different proportions.
The container has to be sealed with a mixture of powdered charcoal and coarse salt (or maybe mineral salt extracted from mines).
The fire is lit...

Now comes the fun part where the proportion of iron vs charcoal and the time you maintain the furnace lit both influence the quality of the steel produced.
More carbon could make the steel hold the edge better but be somewhat brittle... (or, in the absence of durability, other drawbacks...)
Less carbon would increase ductility and flexibility, maybe a better solution for construction uses?

Before you can use blister steel though you must first hammer it multiple times because it has absorbed carbon in its surface only (the iron doesn't melt in the process). In a process similar to the folding and hammering used to make katana blades hammering multiple times improves the result.

This last process would be very time and phlegm consuming.
In alternative you could melt again blister steel into a crucible to make crucible steel.


To make the steel production more unique as a mechanic, a system could be devised where the various minor components in the steel alloy would interact with one another, giving to the final product bonuses similar to those achieved in slotting. This way you would have tailors slotting clothes and blacksmiths making a range of steel alloys for various purposes.

well i like the separate containers part.but using a different building would be better for this since they want it to be its own thing.could be wrong, they might want to save up space and use the smelter lol

You dont need those armor. You arent real templar knight. You traded whit judaism not killed him

i trade with anyone that would provide the materials i need and sell to the first to pay the price of the item being sold.don't know what that has to do with templar knights tho.might be some history behind that but i just mostly liked the name and the way they looked.so didnt reserch alot of their history.

[nonsonogiucas]

well i like the separate containers part.but using a different building would be better for this since they want it to be its own thing.could be wrong, they might want to save up space and use the smelter lol

Just a matter of taste really since wither way you have to build something before you even start.

Anyway I thought that by "more of a thing" JC meant they wanted steel making to be a separate mechanic, something that feels different (game-play wise, I assume) from what's in the game right now and I agree with that. Might be wrong thou.

[DarkNacht]

Maybe something resembling the cementation process

I doubt the cementation process would have been known to the early pilgrims as it was still very new/unknown to most of Europe at the time and metal production technology in the colonies was far behind what most of Europe had.

[Rele]

I doubt the cementation process would have been known to the early pilgrims as it was still very new/unknown to most of Europe at the time and metal production technology in the colonies was far behind what most of Europe had.

Apparently the colonies had very good metal production. http://www.flintriflesmith.com/WritingandResearch/WebArticles/ironandsteel.htm
It even says "The Brits were buying both bar iron and pig iron from the colonies, manufacturing it into finished goods and selling those back to the colonies, literally, by the boat load."
So the Colonies were basically their source of mining labor and economy.

[DarkNacht]

I doubt the cementation process would have been known to the early pilgrims as it was still very new/unknown to most of Europe at the time and metal production technology in the colonies was far behind what most of Europe had.

Apparently the colonies had very good metal production. http://www.flintriflesmith.com/WritingandResearch/WebArticles/ironandsteel.htm
It even says "The Brits were buying both bar iron and pig iron from the colonies, manufacturing it into finished goods and selling those back to the colonies, literally, by the boat load."
So the Colonies were basically their source of mining labor and economy.

The colonies produced large amounts of cheap wrought Iron and and pig iron, they did not have the latest steel making advancements.

[Mereni]

I doubt the cementation process would have been known to the early pilgrims as it was still very new/unknown to most of Europe at the time and metal production technology in the colonies was far behind what most of Europe had.

Apparently the colonies had very good metal production. http://www.flintriflesmith.com/WritingandResearch/WebArticles/ironandsteel.htm
It even says "The Brits were buying both bar iron and pig iron from the colonies, manufacturing it into finished goods and selling those back to the colonies, literally, by the boat load."
So the Colonies were basically their source of mining labor and economy.

But if you read the rest of that article, the colonies were encouraged to produce only pig and bar iron, the least refined kinds of iron, and the Iron Act of 1750 disallowed the making of infrastructure that allowed production of things like bar iron and nail rod used to make swords and nails and the like. While that act was largely ignored and difficult to enforce, we're still doing pretty good in-game just being able to make our own swords and nails.

[Rele]

The colonies produced large amounts of cheap wrought Iron and and pig iron, they did not have the latest steel making advancements.

Maybe there could be a new Npc (blacksmith) in Boston that can refine the cheap metals into more refined one's for a price. Or maybe it can be like the steel process you were talking about above.

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