He Who Walks Through Walls

[Ikpeip]

You speak from both sides of your mouth.

Faithfully,

-PmP

[Suffragium]

Sarcasm and snide remarks about mining won't mask your lies, John Carver. You're trying to portray the humor drain bug we reported as working as intended but needing rebalancing. In light of the other, related bug we reported I know this is not the case - and you know it too. A change was made to one part of a system that had unintended consequences in several other parts of the system. It is a bug. But because it works against us, instead of for us, it is handwaved away. When the Rebels encounter these bugs and whine and wail, then you will bend over backwards to accommodate them.

Faithfully,

-PmP

You seem to think anything that doesn't fit your vision of a perfect system is a bug.

QFT

[Cheena]

Good afternoon,
-[...] I do have an issue with this policy being applied selectively.
-It was indeed necessary to kill Suffragium after finding myself locked inside his vault. [...]John Carver does indeed play favorites [...] I do not believe he would've restored Dan. Killing Suffragium so I could figure out how exactly I had gotten in (and thus figuring out how I could get out) was the best solution available.
-The policy of restoring losses due to bugs is inconsistent. The Braves have lost more humors than Suffragium's character had total due to bugs. Despite these bugs being reported, restoration of the losses have been refused, and the bugs have not been patched. The new devs have taken the stance of the previous devs - the Tribe is expected to test everything thoroughly, report it without reward, and live without compensation for the cost of that testing.
-The concern about the devs having to take time to restore Suffragium's character is misplaced. The complete lack of testing prior to updates, and the work it causes, are unacceptable. I expressed concerns with horses to John Carver immediately after the update, but was waved off with claims they had been tested thoroughly. You can not have a semi-permadeath game like Salem and not thoroughly test updated mechanics.

Faithfully,

-PmP

You freaking rotted spoiled child. I still don't know if you're playing "Look, I'm Tribe and I'm a badass" or if you are genuinely stupid.

- No. There is none.
- No. The best solution was to be ready to talk to him when he would relog, and to explain what the hell was going on. You're so good at talking, you should consider this option more often -_-
- Did Braves have been bug abused by other people ? No, you guys bug abuse yourselves for the sake of testing (and finding **** that can be used on others), and get the appropriate rewards. Don't you dare compare what's not comparable. Now you're ***** about not being rewarded "properly" for all of your bug reports when Suff, him, has had his character restored, QQ, that's cute. And really ridiculous. I'm pretty sure that all of you guys have halberds and stuff. Also, you should be ashamed to ***** on a dev that's here since one f***ing month.
- No. They did test it indeed, but there are things that would not necessarly cross a dev's mind while testing, like "uh what if I tried to bump that door to go through it !? :derp:". Also, maybe this has slipped out of your tiny mind but it has been stated that Salem still had to be launched which means this is still a beta. The "lack of testing" of this patch is incredibly light for the amount of stuff added, and it actually is our job to find what's left. Now if you purposely make devs work more than they should -like, let's say, with an unnecessary kill as a bug abuse (because passing through that door wasn't a bug abuse, killing Suff thanks to it, was)- my statement remains wellplaced.


Also I'm impressed by John's calm and patience. Congratulations man, you are a hero.

[Darwoth]

i have lost several characters to bugs since playing this game and nobody ever restored **** for me.

furthermore the problem now becomes that every death this group of retards suffers will be from a "bug" and they will demand compensation. this is the group that has,,,,,

1> claimed stomp/stun is a bug
2> claimed grouping enemies while they destroy their town is a bug
3> claimed getting stuck on a claim after accumulating to many debuffs is a bug
4> claimed being trapped/walled in a hostile town/claim is a bug


among many others.

undoubtedly walljumps are bugs and need to be addressed immediately in a game like this. however on the issue of restores this is a slippery slope and i see nothing but retards like realak ***** for character restorations everytime he gets killed in the future.

[Realak]

I love you too sweetcheeks.

[Feone]

i have lost several characters to bugs since playing this game and nobody ever restored **** for me.

furthermore the problem now becomes that every death this group of retards suffers will be from a "bug" and they will demand compensation. this is the group that has,,,,,

1> claimed stomp/stun is a bug
2> claimed grouping enemies while they destroy their town is a bug
3> claimed getting stuck on a claim after accumulating to many debuffs is a bug
4> claimed being trapped/walled in a hostile town/claim is a bug


among many others.

undoubtedly walljumps are bugs and need to be addressed immediately in a game like this. however on the issue of restores this is a slippery slope and i see nothing but retards like realak ***** for character restorations everytime he gets killed in the future.

I agree that restores should not come lightly, however in this case appearently there was absolutely no attempt made to break the walls, defenses weren't triggered and yet were still completely bypassed due to no fault of the owners.

Some cases may be a bit borderline, but this one is pretty damn far into abuse territory.

[Darwoth]

however in this case appearently there was absolutely no attempt made to break the walls, defenses weren't triggered and yet were still completely bypassed due to no fault of the owners.

please shut up

[Orcling]

however in this case appearently there was absolutely no attempt made to break the walls, defenses weren't triggered and yet were still completely bypassed due to no fault of the owners.

please shut up

No u

Go suck a tree, tribe scum.

[JohnCarver]

undoubtedly walljumps are bugs and need to be addressed immediately in a game like this. however on the issue of restores this is a slippery slope and i see nothing but retards like realak ***** for character restorations everytime he gets killed in the future.

Agreed. I expect many tears in the future when something is a grey area and I deem it not be a "bug". However, if I can verify that there is direct loss permanent loss of character due to a completely unintended event like wall-jumping in this case I will restore the characters that are affected.

In the event the person who did it does so without reporting it to me first, they will be punished in addition to the victim being restored. I respect the slippery slope, but have decided it is in the best interest of the game for me to invest effort into the integrity of your characters and the systems that govern them.

[fox]

undoubtedly walljumps are bugs and need to be addressed immediately in a game like this. however on the issue of restores this is a slippery slope and i see nothing but retards like realak ***** for character restorations everytime he gets killed in the future.

Agreed. I expect many tears in the future when something is a grey area and I deem it not be a "bug". However, if I can verify that there is direct loss permanent loss of character due to a completely unintended event like wall-jumping in this case I will restore the characters that are affected.

In the event the person who did it does so without reporting it to me first, they will be punished in addition to the victim being restored. I respect the slippery slope, but have decided it is in the best interest of the game for me to invest effort into the integrity of your characters and the systems that govern them.

walljumps always will be after some new patch and added new mechanic.