Thrive movement

[Snowpig]

Problem is, they put down cheap asphalt to save money.

[Syndarn]

Problem is, they put down cheap asphalt to save money.

I guess the follow up question is: If once made propely, does it ever pay itself back?

It does annoy me that i have to constantly drive through roadconstruction maintenance work sites wich slow me down, not to mention the potholes that destroy my car.

[Jalpha]

Long term reward rarely factors into politics. A party must show results within their elected term else they will not get re-elected next term. A pretty good example of this was John Howards run as Prime Minister of Australia. Publicly owned land, structures and businesses were sold off and they started renting more. So in his rather long chain of re-elections he looked quite good to the public eye. Our economy was doing well, we had a budget surplus, etc.

Then the Rudd/Gilliard reign began. A lot of money was spent to boost the economy during the GEC and deal with a string of freak weather. The old sources of supplementary government revenue were now missing and annual upkeep costs had increased. The public became disheartened as the level of debt grew, and Tony Abbot was elected on the pretense that the previous government had ruined the economy.

People are retarded.

Now if you need to build a road to make you look good... Do you really care if it needs to be repaired when your opposition leader is in power? Better do a cheap job now, and find a way to repair it if you get re-elected.

Roads aren't the only thing that's affected.

[Syndarn]

Can't argue there if you put it from a politicians perspective. I still think it ***** and missleading that they actually do this, sometimes on purpose just to "get" fast result to show that they are doing something and not giving a second thought how it might look in a year or two.

As for roads.. the politician just needs a "good enough" result. Me as a citizen, i want something more permanent and usefull. Anyways.. politics is probably the most useless job in the whole world after lobbyists, specially if you are advocating for something you don't know anything about.

As a example..

It's like... get a degree in social sciences -> become a minister of public transport, and earn a ***** of money by -> governing it with crappy ideas because of limited understanding.

While.. not having a drivers licence, ever even driven a car, live in the city and never go out to get another perspective, or tried to understand the ppl that actually need to use a car or drive trucks for a living.

Then they have "advisors" at their disposal who just actually drive the big corporate agenda.. who are the "experts". This is how the world works.

sick world.

Edit: small edits.

[Judaism]

After 30 mins I felt asleep, no joke. Next time when I am tired Ill watch this Thrive crap again.

[Syndarn]

Here is a documentary you guys should watch that backs up what the thrive is telling us.
It's about Psychotropic Drugging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDlH9sV0lHU

[MagicManICT]

Finally read through this thread, and this just about sums it up...

Just hard to take serious when its grouped into the tin foil hat section.

Except it is the tin foil hat stuff....

I sometimes wonder if these people really are for progress, looking at the Amish as ideals in our world without being brave enough to follow in their footsteps, or are just the people the Society for Creative Anachronisms refused to let join (www.sca.org -- great, fun people, local chapter sucked balls last time I looked at joining).

[Syndarn]

Well if the tinfoil guys are right, that means the joke is on you.

Anyway..check this out. Thoughts of Friedrich Nietzsche
http://thespiritscience.net/2014/06/02/does-science-equal-truth/

EDIT: Here is some Plato aswell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVDaSgyi3xE&list=PLghL9V9QTN0jve4SE0fs33K1VEoXyL-Mn

[MagicManICT]

I'm not saying they're right or wrong. As with all things there are truths in all the political speech and "propaganda." They are out in left field, though, and if they want to be taken seriously, they better muscle up or move back to the center a bit.

[Syndarn]

I sometimes wonder if these people really are for progress, looking at the Amish as ideals in our world without being brave enough to follow in their footsteps, or are just the people the Society for Creative Anachronisms refused to let join (http://www.sca.org -- great, fun people, local chapter sucked balls last time I looked at joining).

Well they do sound like fun people. Back in the middle ages everything was very honest. Now there is so much science and things are so complicated so people don't realise what's going on, so most things are a fraud or dishonest.
Not saying science and stuff related to it is bad, and im not implying to go back to the middle ages. Just saying might be a good idea to start working with nature and not agains't it. We are kinda getting more alienated from it day by day.

I don't know who reads this thread, but how many of you have actually had anything to do with farm animals or wild animals? or even seen one. Or walked around in nature and observed it for what it is. Not just what you see on tv or a zoo.
I don't think there's that many, but i could be wrong. Think about it.