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Re: Vote for Europarliament

Postby darnokpl » Fri May 30, 2014 9:05 am

You mean US can survive only with Europe!
Without Europe Russia, China and India will destroy US economy because global crisis is not working as fast as it should and US market is not ready for socialism.
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Re: Vote for Europarliament

Postby Dallane » Fri May 30, 2014 1:49 pm

darnokpl wrote:
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darnokpl wrote:Coal is not so bad,


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I know the US is predominately coal fueled. I grew up in one the biggest steel producing towns and lived close to the west Virginia coal fields. Damn stuff has made the kentucky ohio and wv tristate into a irradiated waste land. It give power fine but destroys everything else.
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Re: Vote for Europarliament

Postby MagicManICT » Fri May 30, 2014 6:07 pm

Without the US's massive imports, all those manufacturing jobs in Asia and Pacific rim disappear. It's a global economy and we're in a giant circle jerk kind of situation where nobody wants to get their hand spewed on.
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Re: Vote for Europarliament

Postby Icon » Sat May 31, 2014 4:51 am

Dallane wrote:I know the US is predominately coal fueled. I grew up in one the biggest steel producing towns and lived close to the west Virginia coal fields. Damn stuff has made the kentucky ohio and wv tristate into a irradiated waste land. It give power fine but destroys everything else.


I live near the coal region of PA and when you get within 10 miles of the mines you can see the layer of black dust on everything in site. Its like goth Christmas eve year round
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Re: Vote for Europarliament

Postby Dallane » Sat May 31, 2014 10:27 am

Icon wrote:
Dallane wrote:I know the US is predominately coal fueled. I grew up in one the biggest steel producing towns and lived close to the west Virginia coal fields. Damn stuff has made the kentucky ohio and wv tristate into a irradiated waste land. It give power fine but destroys everything else.


I live near the coal region of PA and when you get within 10 miles of the mines you can see the layer of black dust on everything in site. Its like goth Christmas eve year round


Go around a coke plant and you till have to go a foot+ down to hit actual poisoned soil.
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Re: Vote for Europarliament

Postby darnokpl » Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:12 pm

MagicManICT wrote:Without the US's massive imports, all those manufacturing jobs in Asia and Pacific rim disappear. It's a global economy and we're in a giant circle jerk kind of situation where nobody wants to get their hand spewed on.


I can agree with part about economy being two sided blade.

But USA without other countries can't survive because this massive imports needs!
While Europe, Russia and China were there for thousands of years before US was painted on maps and are going to be for many more years.

While US without resources can't do anything, americans import most of their resources and without it they can't push forward their industry or provide same life standards as are right now and over 300.000.000 of very disapointed people with right to use gun... doesn't sound good in not so much united states :)
Without Russia, China and Europe using US dollar as transaction currency US economy is going to fall in few years, of course Europe is going to pay for that as well, but maybe in future people are going to be smarter and won't subordinate from just one country so much.
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Re: Vote for Europarliament

Postby Claeyt » Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:59 pm

darnokpl wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:Without the US's massive imports, all those manufacturing jobs in Asia and Pacific rim disappear. It's a global economy and we're in a giant circle jerk kind of situation where nobody wants to get their hand spewed on.


I can agree with part about economy being two sided blade.

But USA without other countries can't survive because this massive imports needs!
While Europe, Russia and China were there for thousands of years before US was painted on maps and are going to be for many more years.

While US without resources can't do anything, americans import most of their resources and without it they can't push forward their industry or provide same life standards as are right now and over 300.000.000 of very disapointed people with right to use gun... doesn't sound good in not so much united states :)
Without Russia, China and Europe using US dollar as transaction currency US economy is going to fall in few years, of course Europe is going to pay for that as well, but maybe in future people are going to be smarter and won't subordinate from just one country so much.

What are you talking about?

The US doesn't "need" to important anything really. Most of our trade deficit is manufactured items not resources. We actually became energy independent this last year for the first time since the 60's. The Largest Oil Boom in the world is happening in N Dakota right now and the largest Natural Gas boom is happening in the American East now. Throw in the Canadian oil sands and America's better off in energy than it's been in a long, long time.

Unlike Western Europe we export massive amounts of food. If we were cut off right now the things we'd miss most would be cars, electronics and clothing but all of those can be retooled and manufactured here. We'd be fine without European exports.
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Re: Vote for Europarliament

Postby darnokpl » Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:09 pm

As always you say total bs
http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03 ... -wto-says/

Rare earth metals like praseodymium, cerium, and neodymium are vital to digital technology—they are essential to the workings of fiber optic cables and wind turbines, to say nothing of the chip in your smartphone, which can contain up to 60 different elements. And rare earths are almost exclusively mined in China, which has made for some interesting economic politics in the last decade.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/27/busin ... .html?_r=0

The United States, which is almost totally dependent on China for the metals, filed the case in March 2012, and the European Union and Japan joined on Washington’s side soon after.
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