Thrive movement

[Potjeh]

If you're gonna disregard the laws of physics, why not go the whole hog and discard mathematics? No need to do fancy calculations, just cobble together whatever you want, call it a perpetuum mobile, and if you believe hard enough in it it'll work (and if you paint it red it'll go faster).

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[Kitrick]

Hmm..I've seen a lot of these types of videos, and am leery to take anything to heart other than considering it an improbable possibility. They all seem to have the same message, and for me, I've discovered most of them MAY be nurtured in some place within the person with good intentions. However, they always crave that scapegoat, that one reason that they hope others will believe without a doubt is the reason for such things, and rally under one banner.

Problem is, people would rather try to gain a moral or intellectual high ground by putting down others that they see as immoral or stupid, than lift others up to where they are/should be. And rightly so. People with an overall empathetic nature are hard to find, and this is greatly influenced by ones: upbringing, culture, environment. There are way too many factors, which is why you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.

In essence, I've come up with a solution.

If you cannot envision yourself living, being part of, or contributing to a society that has the primary goals of:

A)Reaching equilibrium with the planet we live on
B)Uses no currency
C)Does not wage war, or does not take the lives of others unjustly (there is no rehabilitation, we do not have the skills/science to do so)
D)Expand outwards within space to ensure the species lives on past the collapse of the sun
E)Believes there will be cures for all known diseases/genetic mutations

Then please, kill yourself. No one will miss you, or your mediocre, selfish lives.

[Syndarn]

Thanks Kitrick, well said.

If you're gonna disregard the laws of physics, why not go the whole hog and discard mathematics? No need to do fancy calculations, just cobble together whatever you want, call it a perpetuum mobile, and if you believe hard enough in it it'll work (and if you paint it red it'll go faster).

PS. He sounds like a ***** lunatic when he talks about perpetual energy machines but doesn't have a working example...

I was thinking the other day in how to prove to you guys that using toroidal magnetics you can actually create something perpetual.
A few years back when i was more into this tuff i ran into edward leedskalnin and his invention the perpetual motion holder.

Here's a link in what one looks like, and it shows it actually working and how strong the force is needed to break the magnetic connection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=832qz3s1M-s

If you google toroidal magnetics you can see the similarities in the pictures compared to the pmh. They are both loops kind of, the pmh just traps the current and makes it rotate indifenatly creating a field while it's at it.
Wich then i believe can be used to harness more energy.

[Tamasin]

[Jalpha]

I had the most epic reply typed up and then the forums fuxored...

Short version, hes a scammer. Show me a real concept and I'll analyze it and get back to you. Seriously the more I look at this guys stuff the more I recognize a fraudster.

[Snowpig]

Check the criticism paragraph.

I was thinking the other day in how to prove to you guys that using toroidal magnetics you can actually create something perpetual.
A few years back when i was more into this tuff i ran into edward leedskalnin and his invention the perpetual motion holder.

You'd better repeat some basic physics lessons.

[Syndarn]

So what you guys are saying, if you can't explain it with math of today. it's fraud. It can't exist.

EDIT:I chose that video because it was pretty good and had alot of different tests. There are other videos that show exactly the same thing and effects succesfully.
I don't know what other experiments the guy has done, it's abit offtopic. Lets just focus on the pmh.

You'd better repeat some basic physics lessons.

I know what the math says, but i don't worship it. The math might be wrong and we never get to know unless someone questions it's validity.
Not saying im good enough to prove that it's wrong, but im intrested in stuff like this anyways.

[Jalpha]

I can't speak for anyone else, but that isn't at all what I'm saying. I am a strong believer in phenomena which cannot currently be explained with our current understanding of... Everything.

What I am saying is that if such a thing could be built, show me a functioning example, and don't ask me for my money beforehand...

[Tamasin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvmvxAcT_Yc

the world is in what i consider a really bad state.

we may solve the world's energy problems one day, and there may be people who have made some promising steps toward this, but your retards are not among them.

we may be able to improve society and one day live in a more peaceful, harmonious state with eachother and our planet, but crap like 'thrive' is not among the things that will help get us there.

one of the things that i think would really help would be for people to be better informed, understand at least basic science a bit more and learn to do some ***** research into topics they want to talk about. we need more jalphas and less syndarns.