Thrive movement

[Jalpha]

There's a lot of room for improvement in the way our current system functions, I am bound to concede that point. Perhaps unfortunately, and this is important, there will be no revolution. This means that any adjustments to the current modus operatus must be gradual, and some people need to break the ice and show that it's possible. Doing that does not include putting your thumb in your ******* and dreaming of a better future. It involves actually doing something that can be done now. Then perhaps momentum will build. Better the devil you know than the angel you don't.

The problem I have with the Thrive approach is it appears massively based on fantasy. This is not LOTR. This is real life.

I have perhaps a better understanding of the electromagnetic spectrum than most due to my previous trade. The closest we could get to free energy might be something similar to what Tesla (who was also batchit ***** crazy) proposed. Simply put, he wanted to drain electricity out of earths magnetosphere, effectively using earth as a giant battery.

Now is it really a good idea to pull the energy out of something that protects all life on earth from harmful radiation? I'll let you decide.

There are more feasible options. I am no fan of nuclear power, but I can see huge potential in the newly emerging Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors. Once they have overcome the inherent engineering difficulties I imagine they will become very popular (thank you China for not being as totally ***** useless as the USA).

There are achievable goals, without the associated tinhattery. Why the bloody hell does everyone focus on these crackpipe fantasies? Seriously it does more harm than good...

[TCchris]

I'll skip the rest of the post to avoid making a giant wall of text which can be summarized as "You're wrong." .

Said that such matters are only personal opinions, nobody can really know, and I can aswell sumarize and contradict what you said aswell.

Btw, it isn't like it keeps away all wars and violence jeez, just so we won't self-distruct. Image now that a freaking lunatic starts launching bombs all over the planet, because he thinks that killing is good and holy. People don't think like that, and because survival is more important. And yes, war makes posible for great advances in technology, but that only because it creates new shifts of economical power and motivates people. Hopefully we won't have to settle such matters through war anymore(tough i doubt that we are still there).

The ultimate goal, ya, that is my own opinion, so ignore it if you don't agree with it.

[Syndarn]

you are sounding like the tin foil hats in the vid now.

I am well aware of that. Everyone chooses to believe in something. I choose this, or atleast a big portion of it.
I can't really advocate for what i believe in without saying something. wich leads to ->
It's really hard for me to actually defend my point, when it automatically goes into "haha.. it's one of those guys again" and your labeled crazy by the society.

Now the famous..:what if all you ever was taught really was wrong? and this video really is pretty accurate?

We are both equally right in our own opinions, neither can really prove the other one wrong.

Difference is i used to think like the masses just like you and many others, then i started to question everything.. why are things like they are, they make no sense.
Then i searched for explanations.. and this is the area where i ended up at not too long ago.
From my point of view, alot of theese things make alot of sense even if they sound pretty prepostreous. If this really is the truth, then the explanation can't be less insane in contrast to what everyone is led to believe in.

It's always good to take everything with a pinch of salt, but most inportantly keep an open mind.

There's a lot of room for improvement in the way our current system functions, I am bound to concede that point. Perhaps unfortunately, and this is important, there will be no revolution. This means that any adjustments to the current modus operatus must be gradual, and some people need to break the ice and show that it's possible. Doing that does not include putting your thumb in your ******* and dreaming of a better future. It involves actually doing something that can be done now. Then perhaps momentum will build. Better the devil you know than the angel you don't.

I agree with everything you say here, except for that i can't rationalise logically why you would choose the devil that you know (that indeed is bad), for the angel that is better.. but unknown. ofc.. the unknown is pretty scary people are afraid of things they don't understand. Not saying that you don't, but in general. (ps.edit: somekind of start of the revultion is happening right now, people change.)

I have perhaps a better understanding of the electromagnetic spectrum than most due to my previous trade. The closest we could get to free energy might be something similar to what Tesla (who was also batchit ***** crazy) proposed. Simply put, he wanted to drain electricity out of earths magnetosphere, effectively using earth as a giant battery.

Now is it really a good idea to pull the energy out of something that protects all life on earth from harmful radiation? I'll let you decide.

It is a intresting question. According to many scientists the poles will flip soon, and re-align themselves somehow. Our magnetic field hasn't been this weak for a very long time.
Even if it would be potentially dangerous, we will run out of fossil fuels sooner or later and cause more pollution while we are at it. I don't really see how we have much choise other than try it and see what happens.

Matters of faith are just opinions, but I will throw this one out.

I agree on most points here. There are 2 ways to love. One way is with your hearth, then you unconditially love someone, just like a mother loves her child and would do anything for him/her and that will never change no matter what. Then there is brain and logic love.. wich lasts as long as the pros outweight the cons. That's why many relationships don't last nowadays. You can probably figure out the details on the latter for yourselves.

they had david icke in it

No idea who that is. He never really influensed me in anyway. But it sounds like he is a tinfoil guy like i was just labled as

[Tamasin]

they had david icke in it

No idea who that is. He never really influensed me in anyway. But it sounds like he is a tinfoil guy like i was just labled as

He could be considered a King of the tin-foil hat community. He's rambled on a lot in that video, which apparently you agree with totally. Based on you not knowing this and also your suggesting that people check the facts for themselves by going to the website of the people who made the video it very much seems that you are not the sort that has done their research and probably doesn't even know how. Or you would never have suggested such a thing. If you don't want to be a retarded tin-foil, you really need to fix that. One of the first things you should do if actually considering some of the ideas presented in videos like this is take a peek at who the people you're listening to are. This is the reptilian guy. Apparently they had steven greer and goodness knows who else in there too

Just for fun, here is a spectacular piece of hilarity, which is based on icke's ideas: http://www.truthism.com/

[Claeyt]

I have so many things to say about this post that my head almost exploded. I love arguing about "New Agey" stuff like this.

1. America is building the first large scale perpetual motion energy source in the next 5 years probably. It's a half mile high and just got local building permits in Arizona. It's not the 'Taurus' design but it actually works. We have smaller local examples around my town.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/05/can-a-2250-foot-high-solar-wind-tower-generate-electricity-cheaper-than-coal/361524/

2. There was another truly bizarre movie about a perpetual 'Taurus' machine which was run by the gravitational pull of the Pacific Ocean and look how that turned out.....

They called it Fluid Karma and it caused the Apocalypse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkcby8DlW-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ckVZ1m8Y0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW2BYamUWME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XY5yLet3es

3. There's another great cult film out there called "What the Bleep do We Know." It's also about "Quantum Physics" and is very informative. Watch for the Ramtha interviews. It deals with the same stuff and you can visit her "group's" compound down in Mexico.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSk51Lp-vHU

4. The entire Proctor and Gamble Families are all nuts. The kids are bizarre. We have several of them here in Wisconsin.

[Jalpha]

Nice. My favourite part was how it uses water.

Which we are running out of.

[Claeyt]

Nice. My favourite part was how it uses water.

Which we are running out of.

It's almost a closed system. They spray the misted water over the top and it of course falls to the ground inside the tower and is then electrically pumped back up to be sprayed on again. I'm sure it loses some but overall it uses barely any water and of course it can use salt water for the downdraft. It's about as close to a perpetual motion energy machine that you and I will ever see.

[Syndarn]

He could be considered a King of the tin-foil hat community. He's rambled on a lot in that video, which apparently you agree with totally.

Well he didn't say anything unreasonable in that video. If he said anything about reptilians i missed it.

http://www.truthism.com/

I read some of that, so much rage and frustration in it. I do agree on the part that people are beeing ignorant and misslead. The reptilian part i have abit hard to swallow, and some claims of the different religions. There are some paralells i can draw with the world picture i have. But i don't really buy that story the way it's presented. It doesn't feel or seem right.

I have a alternative version here that's more believable, it's cartoon about human history https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MliWcu0GoxM it's also quite outrageous. If you guys wan't, take a look and decide for yourselves. The pace of information flow is quite fast so you have to concentrate abit to get all the pieces of this theory.
I guess this is more new age stuff. Here is the youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSpiritScience of the maker of the video above.

America is building the first large scale perpetual motion energy source in the next 5 years probably. It's a half mile high and just got local building permits in Arizona. It's not the 'Taurus' design but it actually works. We have smaller local examples around my town.

Sounds intresting, would be cool to see one live.

[Jalpha]

I'm sure it loses some but overall it uses barely any water and of course it can use salt water for the downdraft.

I prefer the variants which use salt water for an updraft and produce clean water as a byproduct. Or the fresh/salt combination pools which work through heat exchange. They have to be located an inconvenient distance from the population however, and that relegates them to a permanently marginal status.

[alloin]