a bug with snakes appearing/disappearing

[msfeistybabe]

Hi when I logged on to my main (only been playing about 3 days) I went to camp and there were about 4 snakes, I started running away and they were appearing and disappearing. I got away from all but one and had to use run speed and was a long distance away from him and turned it off with half the bar still available and then it showed the graphic for in battle go off, then I moved a short distance away and the snake appeared right behind me in aggro mode and biting, and I died immediately and lost 20 items. Some of those were just given to me by a new friend this evening and are items I am far from being able to replace. If the issue was my fault I would understand but being that the snakes were warping in and out and that the last one got me when he should have been a few screens back since the battle mode turned off and stayed off for a few minutes... I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how I can restore the items? I really couldn't tell you what they all were though, some were higher level food & study items given by my new friend (I think one was called seafoam) and some were the low level food & study items like cobweb and honeydew and berries on a stick... I didn't know where else to post this after looking through the bug board for others with the same warping issue. Thank you for your time.

msfeistybabe - low level toon of 3 days

[kwyl]

I'm sorry to hear about your misfortune. If you are using the vanilla client my guess is that it was a new snake. I suggest you look into the custom clients and use one of them.

[msfeistybabe]

I am on vanilla client, I tried to get Enders but it wouldn't allow me to run it, and then I tried to get java 6 working as they said it was better for Enders but still wouldn't load... so I went back to java 7 and had a fight to get the game to play again. I will stick with vanilla as it at least allows me to play. Is there no support from game techs though for issues such as this to replace items??

[kwyl]

Hi when I logged on to my main (only been playing about 3 days) I went to camp and there were about 4 snakes, I started running away and they were appearing and disappearing. I got away from all but one and had to use run speed and was a long distance away from him and turned it off with half the bar still available and then it showed the graphic for in battle go off, then I moved a short distance away and the snake appeared right behind me in aggro mode and biting, and I died immediately and lost 20 items. Some of those were just given to me by a new friend this evening and are items I am far from being able to replace. If the issue was my fault I would understand but being that the snakes were warping in and out and that the last one got me when he should have been a few screens back since the battle mode turned off and stayed off for a few minutes... I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how I can restore the items? I really couldn't tell you what they all were though, some were higher level food & study items given by my new friend (I think one was called seafoam) and some were the low level food & study items like cobweb and honeydew and berries on a stick... I didn't know where else to post this after looking through the bug board for others with the same warping issue. Thank you for your time.

msfeistybabe - low level toon of 3 days

Well tbh I don't know that this is an issue. It's the "warping" term you are using that I'm hung up on. Snakes are small, quick, camouflaged and evil. I think you may have been panicked and a little confused during the incident. Also I supposed there is the spawn/despawn possibility to consider. Regardless, if you get ko'd and drop stuff you can go back and get it for a short time (minutes) so plan accordingly. As far as the things you lost this time, sometimes regular players will take pity and offer you things to get you back on your feet. I'm not a major player as I find some integral aspects of gameplay overly complicated so i have nothing to offer you but maybe a few dried boards and gourd or two. I do feel, if I am right about this not being a bug, that you should just take the lesson and get on with developing your character. These things and worse happen regularly in this game. It's its nature. Give a few days of lurking around these forums to see if anyone else reports the problem though as it could be a bug until they actually say it isn't. If it is a bug, the great and powerful Jorbtar may be able to help you. I don't know about willing though. They run this show and are very busy. I have no way of knowing what you know about this game but there is no tech support department.

btw... I'm running 8.1 with java 7.55 and don't have issues with ender's client. only occasionally do i have issues with latikai's. they are usually solved by deleting two folders(salem and .salem)and rerunning the updater.

[crystalheartgames]

I have continued to play the game... still see snakes and run from them (usually it works fine) I get them away from my leanto area and then zigzag until the snake catches up and then attempts to bite and misses, as i keep running away and then they sometimes stay where they are or go a different way... but that day the battle info was totally gone, no other snakes appeared or were near me it was just all of a sudden the snake was back on battle and right on top of me and bit me even though game was not lagging or any other issues, that's what I call warping when something just appears out of nowhere and u don't have a chance to do anything because it is right on top of you. In this game an issue like that means instant KO for every new character due to the very high cost of the antivenom. I do understand it's a permadeath game and losing some items is better than being completely dead and having to make a new character completely... I just don't think that NOT being able to have any type of dev support to confirm/deny the issue makes players frustrated with a game they like...and MUCH less likely to pay to help support the game if it seems devs couldn't care less about support and are just money grubbing for people to buy & easily LOSE silver and therefore real money... I am now on this account playing with about 6 chars and I have ONE character who just today tried to use the homestead secret and port for the first time to my main character's new homestead which has a few things on it...and I found out that it puts the NEW alt's leanto right on the main characters homestead and NOW she is completely STUCK inside the leanto... she can't port to her home, or providence...can't switch characters or log out (I have to close the game and go back on to be able to access different characters... and when I log onto the main I can see the leanto by mine and the character stuck inside as if she's not logged out completely of the game. So who can fix that issue with NO dev support??? I read the forums & watch videos & read the wiki to learn as much about the game as I can and started that a day before I even made an account... because it seemed to have a huge amount of info (and issues apparently) and I didn't want to start playing and start dying right away and hate the game right away and not give it a fair chance. If you have any tips on what else I can do as a new char who barely scraped up enough for one homestead and was trying to have all the alts set to the color green with permissions on the homestead stone so they were able to freely enter & help work on the same plot, and I had no idea that it would set a new character (or one who hadn't used the free port yet) and their leanto right there also on another characters property!! And I don't know if I can someone destroy her leanto or what to do about her being stuck there and her leanto right in my way for the main...since apparently you can't delete a character or lose them?? I could really use some help. I don't want to make 6 different homesteads and have to work them all separately... just one for now! Also, I know that some of the videos I have watched when the person has video author has multiple characters and sets them as a certain type...like farmer, miner etc... and they seem to not have a different homestead for each character... though I am sure some people do. So that's what my plan was so that I don't h have to study up on every character for all the same skills... any tips on this?? thanks for your replies.

[kwyl]

Wow. You're really jumping in head first. I play one character and only have the other 2 because i didn't like their locations. Once I found a place i liked i just played from there. Like I said before, I'm not a big player. The purity and gluttony systems are too complicated to be fun for me. As far as the devs just trying to make money on this thing and screw the players... that's pretty much not what's really going on here. These two guys just want to make this game the way they want it. They like when we buy silver but i don't think they really care if we don't. They update when they feel like it and work things things out when serious issues are found. I think most of the high levels are really just a few serious players with the time to devote to learning and testing the various systems. They are just having fun with it for themselves and if someone else can find a way to enjoy the game too that's fine. If someone comes and goes, that's fine too. They're as close as you get to tech support too. It's not serious business. Otherwise the cash shop would be different. I really advise you to work out using ender's or latikai's client instead of vanilla if you wish to continue to play. This thread has had over 50 views and i'd be willing to bet that someone who knows way more about all this than i do has looked at it. Nobody has replied that the "warping" you speak of is a bug. I think that was just a fluke that a fresh snake happened to spawn just then and there. You can have alts killed. You can destroy a lean-to. Snakes won't go over water. You don't have to stake a claim right away. You can store 2 containers in a lean-to. Sounds like you're trying to rush things. The split duty idea with alts is good because there is a lot of downtime waiting on inspiration and the gluttony punishment so you can work on a few toons at a time. I haven't done that though because i don't really play for hours at a time anymore. I don't know what happened with that HS port and the lean-to and all. I've never even tried that. I guess you could unkin them and kill them yourself if you have the skill or you could call for an assassination. Maybe just destroy that lean-to. Did you do a search for that particular issue yet or were you just mentioning here?

[MagicManICT]

Keep this forum to discussion of bug reports and tech issues, please. If you want to discuss game help or other things, please use an appropriate forum.

[Guyapollo]

As far as client crashes, with the custom clients, there seems to be a lot of the same issue.
If your getting an error after the up date check, the fix is actually pretty simple.
Check out this topic for more information.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9497

And yes I fully agree, I CAN'T play with the vanilla client. Just for the map icons alone, it makes thing soooo much easier.

As for this debate over the inspiration system, ya I agree it's a little broken. The Idea is nice, it make it so playing for 12+ hours is unfeasible. But, from personal experiance, when you spend ten hours trying to unlock blacksmitting just to find out you need Iron to make iron, you tend to start thinking hard on the cash shop.

I do think that the inspiration regain rate could use a little buff, though. 2 inspiration /second thing is low, and thats after some concerted effort. Mine isn't that high even, so it's going to take forever. With something as simple as a tumbleweed, it takes something like 5900 inspiration to study. It takes almost an hour to get that amount of inspiration.

This argument comes down to one thing, how much is to much. When you have two guys, that are trying to make the game, that they want to play. You can expect them to get it right all the time the first time. I just wish it felt like they cared what we thought.