Inotdead wrote:Brego wrote:I'm from Ukraine and better know what is happening here and what will be next
I have friends in Kharkiv, which is also Ukraine, and from them I've heard enough to consider your nonsence "*****".
If you want me to believe you, you have to provide some facts from trusted sources, and not just swear like a little kid.
I will step into this discussion with you, and only comment on enemyunknown once.
If we are to derail this thread into politics, then let's do it the classy way.
First of all, my main points that I did not proclaim anywhere here are:
1. Russia's propagandist accusations on sprouting fascism in Ukraine are false.
2. Ukraine has faced Russian aggression and Russian propaganda is trying to justify it by all means possible, this includes:
a) Destabilizing the situation in eastern regions of Ukraine to move their regular army there, just like it happened in Crimea
b) Creating false image of chaos happening all over Ukraine
c) Camouflaging the image of looming economical collapse in Russia
3. Ukrainian crisis is in no way comparable to:
a) Balkan conflict: no ethnic cleansings happening in Ukraine, no hatred towards any ethnical/religious groups
b) Iraq, Libya, Egypt conflicts: participating countries did not perform a referendum and then announce these countries as part of their land as it happened in Crimea
4. There are no problems for Russian-speaking, Russian-thinking, Russian-dancing-or-whatsoever populace in Ukraine, and there have never been.
What points here should I reinforce with more facts? What facts should I debunk for you?