Looking for Hardcore Permadeath Game

[alloin]

But seriously, real PvP was never there. It was all either summon kills or newbie slaughtering. And it will always be like this, as long as the core design remains unchanged. Like I said on Haven forums years ago: high character investment, permadeath, PvP - pick just two.

When any, just any hardcore MMO with non-target skill-based open PvP, full-loot, crafting, building and open world will come out from development, all PvP part of Salem community will move out in a second.

But there's no any still.

I'm working on a game like that !

donate 5000$ & you'll be the first to test the alpha !

[er-queent8r]

I think firewater had a lot to do with this thread, as well as a little bitterness that could have been avoided had all of the townies just been more vocal and cooperative. At any rate, I tried apologizing for my part in the bitterness, but there was some firewater involved that night as well and I believe it went unnoticed. But I digress. To the point, a bit of advice to improve your Salem gaming experience: hermit. I like to think I got to know a bit about your gameplay style in the short time we played together, and it seems you're like me in that you expect people in your town or group to play their role and stand by their word. And then when it doesn't happen that way for whatever reason, we tend to get angry at them and let the resentment grow until we're lashing out (in this case, quite publicly) or avoiding them altogether. So my advice? Hermit until you have murder, then kill everyone you hate. Seems to be the trend in this game. These new friendships will probably last as long as our group did under these distrustful and backstabbing atmospheric conditions, and once everyone has murder, the old world will be reborn and everyone can sit in Boston wearing clothes they bought in packs and waxing poetic about the proper way to play Salem, all while being too nervous to forage anywhere off the Boston claim. Hope this helps.

You have no ***** idea what you are talking about. Just go back to your little hermit camp and be happy with yourself.

[er-queent8r]

But seriously, real PvP was never there. It was all either summon kills or newbie slaughtering. And it will always be like this, as long as the core design remains unchanged. Like I said on Haven forums years ago: high character investment, permadeath, PvP - pick just two.

When any, just any hardcore MMO with non-target skill-based open PvP, full-loot, crafting, building and open world will come out from development, all PvP part of Salem community will move out in a second.

But there's no any still.

I'm working on a game like that !

donate 5000$ & you'll be the first to test the alpha !

Oh it is you again.

[darnokpl]

Albion Online: Too Brutal for School unless you got guild mates, teamspeak/vent, the whole nine-yards.

It is pretty fun pvp and full-loot game. I am right now on alpha tests.

Five people on guild is enough to defend or raid and that is fun part.
Here is raid on my guild http://www.twitch.tv/donkleaps/b/514215115 it starts at ~3:06 and second raid is ~4:06.

Walking on full-pvp zones is not so fun (not my guild) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbw1X6wV_Q some 10vs10 on full-pvp zone, total mess for me :/

But seriously, real PvP was never there. It was all either summon kills or newbie slaughtering. And it will always be like this, as long as the core design remains unchanged. Like I said on Haven forums years ago: high character investment, permadeath, PvP - pick just two.

+1


As for me, leveling longer than three weeks just to later be summoned and killed about 3-4 in the morning (no matter whether it is a raid, or a spy ) is pointless and total waste of time.

I do not quite understand what would drive a more than 100-200 biles the current system of gluttony.
To achieve 100-200 biles have to spend tens of days it should be enough to PvP!
Raids on the town should be based just on PvP, not destroying Braziers, when residents are sleeping peacefully.

You have to also consider that in the PvP biles is not all what you need to have a fun, you need to have good armor,
which requires WSS, more than 5000 silver/100 $ (with current prices?).

This causes the Salem falls quite low considering the time and effort spent on preparing for the fight,
and the amount and duration of entertainment. I hope the Devs will fix that in future.

[Dallane]

Albion Online: Too Brutal for School unless you got guild mates, teamspeak/vent, the whole nine-yards.

It is pretty fun pvp and full-loot game. I am right now on alpha tests.

Five people on guild is enough to defend or raid and that is fun part.
Here is raid on my guild http://www.twitch.tv/donkleaps/b/514215115 it starts at ~3:06 and second raid is ~4:06.

Walking on full-pvp zones is not so fun (not my guild) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbw1X6wV_Q some 10vs10 on full-pvp zone, total mess for me :/

But seriously, real PvP was never there. It was all either summon kills or newbie slaughtering. And it will always be like this, as long as the core design remains unchanged. Like I said on Haven forums years ago: high character investment, permadeath, PvP - pick just two.

+1


As for me, leveling longer than three weeks just to later be summoned and killed about 3-4 in the morning (no matter whether it is a raid, or a spy ) is pointless and total waste of time.

I do not quite understand what would drive a more than 100-200 biles the current system of gluttony.
To achieve 100-200 biles have to spend tens of days it should be enough to PvP!
Raids on the town should be based just on PvP, not destroying Braziers, when residents are sleeping peacefully.

You have to also consider that in the PvP biles is not all what you need to have a fun, you need to have good armor,
which requires WSS, more than 5000 silver/100 $ (with current prices?).

This causes the Salem falls quite low considering the time and effort spent on preparing for the fight,
and the amount and duration of entertainment. I hope the Devs will fix that in future.

Game looks really interesting. How often do you stream? Would like to see more of that game.

Yeah salem armor crafting is a *****. I've spent countless silver to get get the lucky rolls into ****.

[darnokpl]

Game looks really interesting. How often do you stream? Would like to see more of that game.

Yeah salem armor crafting is a *****. I've spent countless silver to get get the lucky rolls into ****.

It is not my stream, it is some guy from enemy guild but you can see me there running, healing and tanking
And thing I liked was "gg" after they got ass kicked 0:100 points after second siege, in Salem it is impossible

[Dallane]

Game looks really interesting. How often do you stream? Would like to see more of that game.

Yeah salem armor crafting is a *****. I've spent countless silver to get get the lucky rolls into ****.

It is not my stream, it is some guy from enemy guild but you can see me there running, healing and tanking
And thing I liked was "gg" after they got ass kicked 0:100 points after second siege, in Salem it is impossible

Game looks really fun actually the more i watch it lol.

[Dallane]

Sucking ***** for key wtb

[darnokpl]

Sucking ***** for key wtb

You are bit late, we are in middle of two weeks tests session.

[Trenial]

I havent logged into Albion yet. I could, but just haven't.