Ukraine vs Russia

[darnokpl]

Coal from Poland is as good as gas from Russia

Yeah, ***** that ozone layer, who need dat **** anyway?

As far as I know above Poland ozone layer is much thicker than above West of Europe or USA
Of course that would be only temporary solution, under Europe is lots of gas.

Reaching gas also generates lots of pollutions, maybe even more than burning coal, but gas is easier to transport/transfer than coal.

Germany developed new kind of coal power plants, so they can burn coal for other needs as well and it won't be so bad for environment... and they could make money installing this new technology in Ukraine

[Potjeh]

Crimea should gain indepence, but as Tatarstan

[enemyunknown]

and they could make money installing this new technology in Ukraine
> make money
> in Ukraine

Now LOL.

Ukraine got no money: all money it has it took from Russia. Ukraine is in debt deep as ****. All what it can do is to sell it's resourses instead of money. Or sell it's virgins. Or baybies. Or... nothing else.

Crimea should gain indepence, but as Tatarstan ¦]

I don't think Putin let it do that, huh.

[darnokpl]

and they could make money installing this new technology in Ukraine
> make money
> in Ukraine

Now LOL.

Ukraine got no money: all money it has it took from Russia. Ukraine is in debt deep as ****. All what it can do is to sell it's resourses instead of money. Or sell it's virgins. Or baybies. Or... nothing else.

Every capitalistic country is in debt deep... if you haven't noticed.

[Claeyt]

It is legal. An election is happening.

An election by ukrainian people? Or an election by bunch of thugs, who decided who among 'em will rule?

Nobody outside of Russia is calling the 'Maiden' Protesters thugs. Only your media is saying this. The Secret Papers of Yanukovich are showing how he stole billions and moved the money to Switzerland.

The Russian economy is collapsing.

It's happening since USSR fall. Your news are outdated a bit.

Actually, all of this crap looks like a kind of plan:
1. Let Ukraina put itsesf into ****.
2. Let it make a new non-legit goverment.
3. Make a rebellion in Krim - since it don't need to obey new goverment.
4. Take Krim as a part of Russia "by the will of its people".
5. ...
6. PROFIT!

But i didn't say that.

Ukrainian are so tired of its stupid goverment of clowns, so it's not surprise dat they think dat Putin is better for 'em. In fact - Russia in the same corrupted ****, but just a bit better than Ukraina.

The vast majority of Ukrainians don't want to join Russia. Only in some Eastern Cities and Provinces. They are only 50-55% Native Russian Speakers in these provinces. In Crimea there are more but 40% of Crimea are Tartars and Ukrainians. Russian media is exaggerating about the number of people that support Russia. Russian Media is lying about the amount of refugees. Find outside sources of information.

[Claeyt]

You write **** again without even consulting some serious sources:

- fracking in the U.S. No transport capacities and in the first place the U.S. want to satisfy their own demand.
- North Africa They sell their gas to Asia because the revenue is higher.

So, no russia as supplier skyrocketing prices for gas first and riots afterwards.

Yes shipping Natural Gas is expensive. The price in Europe will go up. If the price goes up then Libya will sell to Europe and not China. Libya does not ship Natural Gas to China, only oil.

There will be no riots in Western Europe over Natural Gas prices. Europe only gets 33% of it's Natural Gas from Russia. Ukraine won't allow it to go through.

[naosnule]

Find outside sources of information.

Better: find competent sources which have nothing to win by lying. Question is: who remains? The Red Cross? XD

[enemyunknown]

The Secret Papers of Yanukovich are showing how he stole billions and moved the money to Switzerland.

So it's not so >secret< papers, huh? Anyway - don't be jealous.

Russian media is exaggerating about the number of people that support Russia. Russian Media is lying about the amount of refugees. Find outside sources of information.

Every media lies - it was made for doin' that. The only difference is what lie it brings.

All of this don't make new ukrainian "govermant" a bit legit.

[Snowpig]

Crimea should gain indepence, but as Tatarstan

There is already one. But I - as 50%-Tatar - would certainly not say 'no' to a territorial gain

I stop feeding the Claeyt-Troll, as he is fat enough even without my cast pearls...

[Claeyt]

Coal from Poland is as good as gas from Russia

Yeah, ***** that ozone layer, who need dat **** anyway?

As far as I know above Poland ozone layer is much thicker than above West of Europe or USA
Of course that would be only temporary solution, under Europe is lots of gas.

What are you two talking about? Ozone has nothing to do with Greenhouse gases from Coal and Oil. The Polar Ozone Holes (Really just thinning) is caused by CFC's and related chemicals (mostly refigerants). International agreements have begun to help the situation.

Oil and Coal pollution leads to 'Air Pollution' and other specific problems from Carbon particulates in the weather system like 'Acid Rain' and 'Smog'. Ozone depletion and Coal are not related.

...and the Ozone over Poland is fine and probably the same as the rest of Europe.