Ukraine vs Russia

[enemyunknown]

right now Russia needs to get out of Ukraine.

ORLY? People of Krim got another opinion.

Russia took Krim in 1783 and it was russian territory 'till 1954, when it was given by Hruzshev to Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. When Ukrainian SSR decided to leave Soviet Union, all russians lived in Krim becomes Ukrainians.

So now, when Ukraina got no legit goverment but a gang of thugs with baseball bats and knives, russian people of Krim decided not to obey these criminals and asked Russia for protection.

To summarize all above: shut the ***** up and don't talk 'bout things you don't know anymore.

[Snowpig]

+1

“But I cannot understand what fuel you will take for heating. You do not want gas, you do not develop the nuclear power industry, so you will heat with firewood?” ... “You will have to go to Siberia to buy the firewood there, as Europeans do not even have firewood.”

Btw. Nobody will shut down gas in europe - for one big reason: There is no other supplier who can supply those amounts of gas with the same prizes. If europe decided not to buy gas from russia, the next winter would become a) very cold and b) full of riots by people who cannot afford a heating.

Thus: all europe can do now, is to say "Don't do that." But without the "or else..." And therefore nothing will happen.

[TheBatman]

no wonder in-game politics are so terrible. some of you people don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[darnokpl]

+1

“But I cannot understand what fuel you will take for heating. You do not want gas, you do not develop the nuclear power industry, so you will heat with firewood?” ... “You will have to go to Siberia to buy the firewood there, as Europeans do not even have firewood.”

Btw. Nobody will shut down gas in europe - for one big reason: There is no other supplier who can supply those amounts of gas with the same prizes. If europe decided not to buy gas from russia, the next winter would become a) very cold and b) full of riots by people who cannot afford a heating.

Thus: all europe can do now, is to say "Don't do that." But without the "or else..." And therefore nothing will happen.

Coal from Poland is as good as gas from Russia

[enemyunknown]

Coal from Poland is as good as gas from Russia

Yeah, ***** that ozone layer, who need dat **** anyway?

[Claeyt]

right now Russia needs to get out of Ukraine.

ORLY? People of Krim got another opinion.

Russia took Krim in 1783 and it was russian territory 'till 1954, when it was given by Hruzshev to Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. When Ukrainian SSR decided to leave Soviet Union, all russians lived in Krim becomes Ukrainians.

So now, when Ukraina got no legit goverment but a gang of thugs with baseball bats and knives, russian people of Krim decided not to obey these criminals and asked Russia for protection.[/b]

Your media is lying to you. Every country in Europe and even China recognizes the new Ukrainian government. Yanukovich's Party of Regions abandoned him. There was a 'no confidence' vote. It is legal. An election is happening.

Russia took Krim from the Turks, is it part of Turkey? Crimea has been part of Ukraine for 23 years. It is Ukraine not Russia. The Ruble is at all time lows.

Only 60% of Crimea are Native Russian Speakers. 12% are Tartar. 28% are Native Ukrainians. What about the 40% of the population of Crimea that don't want to leave Ukraine. Your media is lying to you. Watch the BBC, Read European papers. They don't lie like RT News and Putin Papers.

“But I cannot understand what fuel you will take for heating. You do not want gas, you do not develop the nuclear power industry, so you will heat with firewood?” ... “You will have to go to Siberia to buy the firewood there, as Europeans do not even have firewood.”

Btw. Nobody will shut down gas in europe - for one big reason: There is no other supplier who can supply those amounts of gas with the same prizes. If europe decided not to buy gas from russia, the next winter would become a) very cold and b) full of riots by people who cannot afford a heating.

Thus: all europe can do now, is to say "Don't do that." But without the "or else..." And therefore nothing will happen.

Only 1/3 of European natural gas comes from Russia. Libyan oil and natural gas are beginning to rise again. The East Coast of the United States has a Natural Gas fracking boom. The Price will rise but they will be fine. Your missing the point. There will be no way to get the Natural Gas to Europe. Most of the pipelines go through Ukraine. You'd have to occupy the whole country, which won't happen.

Sanctions are coming next. The Russian economy is collapsing. Withdraw your money from the bank now.

Coal from Poland is as good as gas from Russia

Coal from Poland and Ukraine is as good as gas from Russia, just dirtier.

[Snowpig]

yeah ...lets breathe air like in Beijing

[Claeyt]

yeah ...lets breathe air like in Beijing.

all the coal soot and smog will float West towards Moscow.

[enemyunknown]

It is legal. An election is happening.

An election by ukrainian people? Or an election by bunch of thugs, who decided who among 'em will rule?

Your media is lying to you. Watch the BBC, Read European papers. They don't lie like RT News and Putin Papers.

LOL?

The Russian economy is collapsing.

It's happening since USSR fall. Your news are outdated a bit.

Actually, all of this crap looks like a kind of plan:
1. Let Ukraina put itsesf into ****.
2. Let it make a new non-legit goverment.
3. Make a rebellion in Krim - since it don't need to obey new goverment.
4. Take Krim as a part of Russia "by the will of its people".
5. ...
6. PROFIT!

But i didn't say that.

Ukrainian are so tired of its stupid goverment of clowns, so it's not surprise dat they think dat Putin is better for 'em. In fact - Russia in the same corrupted ****, but just a bit better than Ukraina.

[Snowpig]

Only 1/3 of European natural gas comes from Russia. Libyan oil and natural gas are beginning to rise again. The East Coast of the United States has a Natural Gas fracking boom. The Price will rise but they will be fine. Your missing the point. There will be no way to get the Natural Gas to Europe. Most of the pipelines go through Ukraine. You'd have to occupy the whole country, which won't happen.

Sanctions are coming next. The Russian economy is collapsing. Withdraw your money from the bank now.

You write **** again without even consulting some serious sources:

- fracking in the U.S. No transport capacities and in the first place the U.S. want to satisfy their own demand.
- North Africa They sell their gas to Asia because the revenue is higher.

So, no russia as supplier skyrocketing prices for gas first and riots afterwards.