Was 'Survivor 2299' the greatest Gaming Troll ever?

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Re: Was 'Survivor 2299' the greatest Gaming Troll ever?

Postby Dallane » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:51 pm

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Re: Was 'Survivor 2299' the greatest Gaming Troll ever?

Postby Shill » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:37 pm

Hype, that is all this is. 2299, that is a funky Fallout date. Best bet is to buy Wasteland 2 from inXile Entertainment, and play/replay until then. I mean given Bethsoft's track record, the best we can hope for is what it always is: Skyrim w/ Guns, only 59.95$ available at Best Buy soon! Pre-order now, and receive custom DLC! Blah blah blah. Then they realize what a discredit to the IP they've done again, and bring back in original developers of the IP, in no particular order, such as Chris Avellone, and hope they can save the IP once more with a new smash hit side spinning title: Fallout 4.5: Gates of New San Fransisco coming soon, only 49.95$!

Eighteen years after New Vegas? This alone sounds funky, seeing as Bethsoft has declared FO3 canon and NV a spin-off title. Now either they've finally realized what dumb **** they pulled in FO3 and have to admit that Chris set the record straight in New Vegas, and go from there or the entire thing is *****. Given the fanfare they've received almost all of which is attributed to New Vegas, I mean look at the efforts that went into making the Lanius Movie? If 2299 is an actual setting date, there better be nothing short of a climax dealing w/ Lanius' backstory being reveal, his invasion of what remains of the Commonwealth, and the final and hard fall of the NCR. Which arrives us at a new dilemma, the Courier. 18 years, he is still alive and kicking. I mean the utter **** he endured in New Vegas, to simply say he died of the flu in 2291, just ain't going to work.

And to have a repeat of a the PC, would be rather unorthodox. In Fallout, the great hero always is rejected, and dies, and the next title is paraded in.

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Re: Was 'Survivor 2299' the greatest Gaming Troll ever?

Postby Claeyt » Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:30 pm

Shill wrote:

My only worries are that it will take until 2015 to get here.
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Re: Was 'Survivor 2299' the greatest Gaming Troll ever?

Postby Shill » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:04 pm

Claeyt wrote:
Shill wrote:

My only worries are that it will take until 2015 to get here.


Well this may be conjecture but New Vegas was released in 2010? And Fallout 3 2008? Oblivion 2006? And Skyrim 2011?

You see the fluke in New Vegas there? That is because Todd Howard and Bethsoft had little to do with New Vegas at all but in-name.

If we follow the production to development cycle we get an average of 5-6 years. And given the modding success of Skyrim, 2016 seems a legit date for The Elder Scrolls VI. New Vegas breaks that cycle because Obsidian Entertainment did the game. If Bethsoft was brilliant and wanted to repeat New Vegas' success, they will have dished out the rights of development to another outside Studio, with access to the Creation Engine, hopefully. Otherwise...you have to now add another 2 years into the cycle from 2010, for a new engine to be developed, because lets face it, Bethsoft was absolutely genius by finally breaking down and doing their own engine in-house.

New Vegas was a hit, and this is my theory:

Original Fallout developers, developed the title...amazing, right?! Whoddathunkit?! ¦]

You got Josh Sawyer directing, Mark Morgan composing, and Chris Avellone writing. What you get in the end is a canonical title, that fits, works, and is Fallout classical material.

Now judging Obsidian Entertainment's track record, it seems they devote their staff to two titles at any given time between 2-4 year cycles. As of this moment they're already in the 2014 cycle for a Southpark game and Pillars of Eternity(the jewel title imho). So I don't see them having any resources available previously for a next-generation title. So Obsidian is ruled out.

You find the same problem in the other half of the original Fallout developers: inXile Entertainment. So they're ruled out as well.

What does this leave us? Either Bethsoft, who does have the resources to pull it off on their own steam in the background, or they licensed the development to some unknown or up-and-coming studio? Both options scare me, and leave a bad taste in my mouth. I would conjecture that at this time, for the sake of the IP, Fallout 4 has not entered the production cycle, and is on the backburner until otherwise. Which doesn't leave me happy either...

I hope I'm right...I hope I'm wrong. A catch 22 as they say.

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Re: Was 'Survivor 2299' the greatest Gaming Troll ever?

Postby Nimmeth » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:52 am

Hehe. troll or not.

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