Crop Quality Question

[aprevite]

I’m new to the game and could not find a current answer for my question on the forums. Is the quality of crops (e.g. pumpkins, cereals, etc.) determined by the initial humus used to prepare the field, the fertilizers added after planting, or a combination of both? For example, if I use 0% purity seeds with a 10% humus for field preparation will the seeds be >0% - >10% purity regardless of what fertilizer purity is used?

And is compost bins purity only controlled by wood for construction and worms? Does what you put in the bins matter for the humus quality?

Thanks

[chuckdiesel]

If I understand things correctly:

1. The initial humus prior to planting affects the crop purity. Fertlilizers after planting do not.
2. Using 0% seeds with 10% humus for field preparation will give you crop purity between 0% and 10%. I don't know the formula offhand, but it was probably figured out. The seed purity is a factor in the equation for crop purity as well as a small "random" change.
3. Humus purity is determined by the bin purity and the worms (both worm purity and "efficiency"). I don't think the actual formula has been posted yet although some thoughts about it have been. Also, it has atleast been theorized that the null purity nails may affect bin purity.
4. What you put in the bins for compost does not affect humus purity. I've read that higher purity compost produces humus "faster", but i'm not sure if that's true.

Other players with more knowledge should be able to fill in the gaps or correct my mistaken information.

Here is a link that may help: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5689&hilit=earthworms

Best of luck,

-chuck

[Kandarim]

If I understand things correctly:

1. The initial hummus prior to planting affects the crop purity. Fertlilizers after planting do not.
2. Using 0% seeds with 10% hummus for field preparation will give you crop purity between 0% and 10%. I don't know the formula offhand, but it was probably figured out. The seed purity is a factor in the equation for crop purity as well as a small "random" change.
3. Hummus purity is determined by the bin purity and the worms (both worm purity and "efficiency"). I don't think the actual formula has been posted yet although some thoughts about it have been. Also, it has atleast been theorized that the null purity nails may affect bin purity.
4. What you put in the bins for compost does not affect hummus purity. I've read that higher purity compost produces hummus "faster", but i'm not sure if that's true.

Generally correct:
1) humus*
2) there is a rather large randomness involved, and on very high purities (70% seeds, 70% humus), you can expect to experience a significant drop in produce purity. Low purities (10% seeds, 10% humus) will often see you achieving higher purity percentages than the humus.
3) humus*
4) correct: the average multiplier of your compost bin is used to divide humus production time, as far as I am aware.

[Snowpig]

yeah, Hummus is an arabian dish made of chickpeas.

[chuckdiesel]

Previous post edited for humman error.

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I believe (although I could be wrong) that humus production time is unaffected by purity, but purity food fills the bin at a higher rate so it takes less bin food. If no one else weighs in to confirm or disprove that, I'll run a bin experiment tonight and post the results

[Kandarim]

I believe (although I could be wrong) that humus production time is unaffected by purity, but purity food fills the bin at a higher rate so it takes less bin food. If no one else weighs in to confirm or disprove that, I'll run a bin experiment tonight and post the results

Consider it disproven. I've filled plenty of bins with 10-15% pumpkins only to get just the same old 7.5 points per pumpkin. I have so many bins that I don't really notice their production rate, though. THe detail about production speed increasing was something I vaguely remembered from the corresponding update news.

edit: source

Change to Compost Alchemy: Compost Bins no longer take the Alchemies of matter fed to them into consideration when determining the Alchemy of the Humus they produce. Humus Alchemy is now a function of the Compost Bin's Alchemy and the Alchemy of the Worms in the Compost Bin. Worms can be placed in any container and will then eat most any plants when placed next to them. When worms eat a plant, their Alchemy will move toward the Alchemy of the plants eaten. The Alchemies of the matter fed to the Compost Bin still matters, but only insofar as more pure inputs are turned into humus faster.

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I still couldn't tell a difference in rate of production... But I'm also not going to argue jorb =p.

[aprevite]

Thank you everyone. I have one follow up question about how worms are engineered. I read Kandarim’s quote from Jorb. If I put a common or python worm (e.g. 25/25/25/25) in a container with a plant that is 15/15/55/15 the worm will change values over some period of time toward the values of the plant? Any idea how long that is and does pumpkin and/or cabbage qualify as a plant (in this case)?

[jcwilk]

Thank you everyone. I have one follow up question about how worms are engineered. I read Kandarim’s quote from Jorb. If I put a common or python worm (e.g. 25/25/25/25) in a container with a plant that is 15/15/55/15 the worm will change values over some period of time toward the values of the plant? Any idea how long that is and does pumpkin and/or cabbage qualify as a plant (in this case)?

I believe it's that after 12 hours the worm eats 1 "Any Plant" http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Any_Plant (pumpkin flesh does, cabbage does not) next to it and moves 10% towards its purity. So if the worm was 25/25/25/25 and you put it in with 35/15/35/15, after 12 hours the flesh will be gone and the worm will be 26/24/26/24. Next time if you feed it something with the same purity as before it will move slightly less because 10% of a difference of 9 is less than 10% of a difference of 10.

Typically you want to find a purity any plant source nearby (maybe 4% merc grass or something like that) and feed the pythons up on that then when they get close enough to it that they're barely budging on each feed you can start feeding them purity plants that you buy from someone, maybe around 10% or more, to try to push them as high as possible.

I'm curious if anyone has input on whether you would ever want to feed a regular earthworm rather than a python, seems like it would just be a waste but perhaps I'm missing something.