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i have heard its good and bad to join MM tribe because you have to pay them but they also give you protection

By paying the treaty you have to give MM tribe your location. Which means you are at the mercy of guy who was killing fresh newbies for fun, as shown in thread below, and hope he keeps his word on protecting you
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1054

From a recent member point of view, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Regarding your location, they have the entire world mapped with private maps anyways so don't worry about that.
Yes, when they were brand new, they had a new player killing spree when they first learned the skills, but for months now they have ruled the server with a just and iron hand, which can only profit you.
Check other threads where treaty paying people were robbed and they were quickly and efficiently reimbursed what they lost.

The Details of the Treaty can be found here:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3163

Steps to pay it are found here:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3163&start=190#p36715

It is important to realize that Paying the Treaty is more of a political move and might not be appropriate for this subforum. However, actually JOINING the Tribe is the action where one goes through a long Vision Quest. If you complete the Quest you are allowed in and if you fail your Vision Quest the Tribe will kill you. Joining the Tribe is only for those who want to make a 100% commitment to their lifestyle.

Hope that clears things up for you.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

jwhitehorn wrote:If you complete the Quest you are allowed in and if you fail your Vision Quest the Tribe will kill you.

Unless your name is Jordan Coles, then you can be a failure, and still be allowed to live. You just have to give up your dignity.

Mushibag wrote:Unless your name is Jordan Coles, then you can be a failure, and still be allowed to live. You just have to give up your dignity.

Jordan Coles was an anomaly where he failed his VQ and yet was a Treaty Payer so he could not be executed. We have since closed that loophole and refund Treaty Payments to those who want to attempt a VQ.

Also this seems like a derail from this persons legitimate attempt at deciding if the Tribe is right for him. If you would like to continue the Jordan Coles Vision Quest discussion we should take it to HoB.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

Cavern_Lurker wrote:, which can only profit you.
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I have to disagree with what this guy has to say. To say it can only profit u is rediculous, as it costs you 500s to begin with. At best, you spend 500s and may not have been the target of a raid regardless. 2nd, they may have the world mapped, but beyong the landscape, player settlements are dynamic. A map that was accurate as of yesterday, today could be wrong. Also, they may know where some settlements are, but who they belong to is another mystery to be solved...

Plus, as I have said before, any resources given serve to bolster their power.

tweenprinc3ss wrote:
I have to disagree with what this guy has to say. To say it can only profit u is rediculous, as it costs you 500s to begin with. At best, you spend 500s and may not have been the target of a raid regardless. 2nd, they may have the world mapped, but beyong the landscape, player settlements are dynamic. A map that was accurate as of yesterday, today could be wrong. Also, they may know where some settlements are, but who they belong to is another mystery to be solved...

Plus, as I have said before, any resources given serve to bolster their power.

Doesn't cost a noob anywhere near 500s. I stopped reading this as clearly you have not read how the system works.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

tweenprinc3ss wrote:

Cavern_Lurker wrote:, which can only profit you.
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I have to disagree with what this guy has to say. To say it can only profit u is rediculous, as it costs you 500s to begin with. At best, you spend 500s and may not have been the target of a raid regardless. 2nd, they may have the world mapped, but beyong the landscape, player settlements are dynamic. A map that was accurate as of yesterday, today could be wrong. Also, they may know where some settlements are, but who they belong to is another mystery to be solved...

Plus, as I have said before, any resources given serve to bolster their power.

Whatever the costs of Treaty may be, and one has to agree, they aren't really expensive, but you don't profit from it. It is like car insurance - you have to pay it regularly, so in case something bad happens you might just have a chance to get something back. There is profit in it - for the tribe. You don't get any profit, and you never will. And that is if you set aside the fact that paying it you acknowledge your status as obedient sheep slave.
Map is a whole 'nother thing. As it was already stated, what they have mapped does not refresh regularly and not to mention there are ways to mask your presence in a certain area, so that unless someone accidentally comes directly upon the doors of your claim, you could easily stay under the radar for months. It's all about luck. For example, if Coles hadn't started collecting for the Tribe, question is when would they find me. Unfortunately for me, I was unaware he was my neighbor.
And I don't know was it that I didn't pay their tax or that I just know how to play this game, but I seem to be progressing better than many tax paying players.
In the end it all comes down to how you want to play this game. If you just wish to be left alone and grow your crops in peace, like any other peasant farmer out there, paying treaty is most likely the easiest way for you. However, beware, as claims that it will make you safe might not prove so in the long run.