Farming and 3rd tier crops

[himitsu143]

Hello,

I've been trying to get 2nd and 3rd tier crops on all types of fields, especially the special cotton types.
What I've done basically is plant wheat first, and I got the green bar to 100 on all fields.
After that I planted cabbage (since it drains for bars 3 and 4), and started raising the red bar.
Sadly though, after every planting, I lose 5 influence on the green bar (technically on the other 2 as well, but they're at 0 so nvm).

Since I keep on losing the same amount every planting, I'm not quite sure how I can get a tier 3 cotton (or any other crop for that matter).. I mean.. as far as I know, i need both bars to be at 100 or so.

Any solution any of you can offer for how to get both bars to 100 w/o draining them? or any other way to get 3rd tier crops?

Thank you

[Kandarim]

you use fertilizers to speed up the process: humus and hay will increase the gained influence after harvest (but the drain will remain at -5 regardless of fertilizers). A must-have is three-field system, which will vastly increase the amount of influence gained per fertilizer and -more importantly- will alter the diminishing returns on them so the influence fertilizers approach a non-zero value towards infinity.

i.e. with three-field system a piece of humus will give at least +5% influence, regardless of how many pieces of fertilizer were already thrown on the field. This means you will need about 300-350 pieces of humus to get a bar from 0 to 100 in one harvest (2k influence). My personal preference is 7 pieces of hay (hay-hay-hay-chip-hay-hay-hay-hay) and then top the field with humus until the desired influence is reached.

You do need a lot of bins if you want it to go real fast, though.

[himitsu143]

Thanks for the help!

And I do have like 15 or so bins in base, so i think it should be ok
I have all the farming skills, so all I need basically is just use a lot of fertilizers, and once the influence on both bars gets to 150-200% total it's gonna produce tier 2 and tier 3 crops?

[Kandarim]

If you only have one bar with influence, it goes like this: no tier 2 products until 50% influence, then it scales linearly towards 100% (i.e. at 75% influence half your output will be the tier 2 product, half will still be tier 1 - at 100% influence all of your output will be tier 2).

For two bars of influence (tier 3), it goes somewhat like this (I'm not completely positive, but the results are close'ish): subtract 50% from each relevant bar. Take the lowest of the two relevant bars, and subtract this from both bars (call it X). The leftover in the other bar is called Y. You will now receive a fraction of X/(X+Y) tier 3 products, while you will receive a fraction Y/(X+Y) of tier 2 products (from the bar with the LOWEST influence, for some reason).

I'm pretty sure my actual formulas for tier 3 are wrong, but it happens somewhat like that. Possibly someone with more experience can explain it better

[Kreek]

I did a quick skim so im not sure if this was addressed, but if it wasn't;

It should be noted that all crops drain -5 from every bar except the bar it is adding to.