P-Claim n' V-Claim

[uncleseano]

So I'm nerding away on up with Salem less and less lately and me V-Claim is really raping my silver something fierce. The only reason why I got the fecker in the first place was to deny the lads who would want to drop a V-Claim on top of me personal claim. Is it possible to let the V-Claim run out of silver and continue using the P-Claim that's underneath it? I'm hoping for two conditions to be met square in the jaw

1. That Brazier fire will still activate and
2. That lads can't drop a V-Claim claim over my V&P-Claims (if the V-Claim has no silver left in it) and continue to smash walls etc with immunity

DISCUSS

[MagicManICT]

I've not seen any exact info on this, so this is my best speculation using the game mechanics as I understand them.

1. If the town claim runs out of silver for upkeep, it becomes open to being taken over by anyone with Compacts & Constitutions if I recall right.

2. If a town runs out of upkeep, it no longer protects the structures on it and scents aren't left. Any personal claims could be broken into without the requisite waste claim the town would protect them from.

3. Another town can't be built there as long as there is an existing town claim. The old claim needs to be removed first, but refer to #1.

4. As long as braziers are on an active claim of any type, they'll protect the claim they are on. If the braziers are on the town claim but not a personal claim, they won't activate for anything if the down goes dormant, but will activate if the braziers are on the personal claim being attacked. If the braziers are on two different personal claims, and one claim is broken into, the second claim won't contribute even if within range.

[uncleseano]

Excellent that's nailed everything on the head but just to clarify, if I let me town bell run outta silver and leave the P-Claim up can lads tell if the Town Bell is out? Also... if people do break in and there's the P-Claim up and the empty bell ANYONE (even if im mayor) can just claim the bell, therefore all the land thats contained within?

[staxjax]

They wouldn't be able to tell that the vclaim is out of cash. They will, however, be able to destroy the townbell if it is out of money. If you have faith in your defenses, and the pclaim covers the entirety of your property, then I wouldn't be too worried about it.

[Yourgrandmother]

Braziers only activate when on personal claims.

[staxjax]

That is false. They activate on village claims, but if it is a village claim only, the perps get free trespass. So they can activate braziers, wait for the braziers to stop smoking, and then come back to walk around freely on the claim or get in position for the next bash without taking immediate brazier fire.

[uncleseano]

Excellent, that's sorted it, thanks you beautiful men fountain of men you