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Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:51 pm
by XelNigma
So I just placed my first Blazer and placed some coal in it. From my understanding it should light on its own and "attack" badguys when they do bad stuff. I also read that the damage they deal is actually lowered when there are other blazers around. So whats the optimal placement of blazers?
Next is, should I extend my claim to one square beyond my fence line? My thinking is that they will have to be on my property to be destroying my stuff (fence) so there black bile will drain while they are beating on the fence, or will it already drain because the thing they are attacking is on my claim even tho they are not?
How do houses and mines work as far as claims go? will a house/mine on my claim still affect badguys once they go inside the house/mine? Are houses a bad idea defense wise because it gets them away from the blazers outside?
I dont expect any one will be rainding my place. as far as I know I'm the only active player in the area. But it never hurts to know these things.
Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:24 pm
by Yourgrandmother
- The more braziers the better. At the high end raiders will suffer up to ~30-40 BB/second against a high concentration of braziers with the chance of criticals doing 30% of their biles
- Optimal placement is condensed with objects blocking. Have multiple walled off grids in your town so raiders attacking one grid and disabling braziers there will be under fire from braziers in other unmolested grids. Items such as boxes, pots, anything surrounding the brazier makes it harder for the raiders as well as they are forced to destroy or pick up and move to disable braziers all while under constant fire
- Claim up to the tile where your perimeter wall is fine, walls are merely a nuisance for decent raiders and the main BB drain will come from brazier fire.
- Inside a house/mine is still trespassing and they will still lose small amount of BB drain (the more crime debuffs the higher the drain). Houses are a bad idea defense wise unless you plan to use trap houses. Have an alt logged in at the entrance of the house (inside). Once a criminal enters the house log in the alt, the criminal will then be unable to leave the house even after murdering you for 30 minutes (once the corpse decomposes into a moveable skeleton). However if they have friends they can just destroy the house.
- If you want to be safe and deter the majority of raiders have it planned where anywhere on your base raiders will be under fire from 3-5 braziers (range is 15-20 tiles). Preferably 5-10 braziers in your core area where there are valuables and BLOCK all braziers with objects and make your place a real cluster*%&^ to navigate thru.
- If you are on Plymouth then defenses will be much tougher to deter MM
- If you are on Roanoke and follow the advice here you are safe from everyone but Russians and Candy Gang, I would say if you have 150-200 braziers in a condensed area you are invincible from being raided from them
- If you are on Jamestown and follow this advice you won't be raided from anyone, Darwoth has a weaker character than most developed factions and is a solo raider
Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:41 pm
by XelNigma
Wow thanks, way more information than I expected.
Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:04 pm
by qbradq
Out of the dozens of "how do I defend my base" threads this is the best information to come out. Thank you! Needs to be added to the FAQ

Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Wed May 01, 2013 9:42 am
by k545836
Yourgrandmother wrote:- Claim up to the tile where your perimeter wall is fine, walls are merely a nuisance for decent raiders and the main BB drain will come from brazier fire.
How about the trick with building a wall next to your wall and destroying it. Thus they can splash damage your wall and break in without actualy waking braziers at all? Is it still working?
Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Wed May 01, 2013 6:23 pm
by Mereni
k545836 wrote:Yourgrandmother wrote:- Claim up to the tile where your perimeter wall is fine, walls are merely a nuisance for decent raiders and the main BB drain will come from brazier fire.
How about the trick with building a wall next to your wall and destroying it. Thus they can splash damage your wall and break in without actually waking braziers at all? Is it still working?
The braziers still wake up after a couple trespass/larceny acts, or after any waste crime at all.
Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Wed May 01, 2013 7:19 pm
by Darkside
YGM always has excellent advice about base defenses, thanks man.
One thing that I still cannot decide on is to Town Bell or not...
The thing I am scared of is making such nice defenses that the potential raider just town bells over my claim and takes it all over! I never built a town bell before so I dont know the mechanics or how it works but it sounds like its an easy thing to do and if it costs just 2,500 s then its actually quite cheap to take over someone's pclaim especially if they have walls, all the equipment/structures in place and dozens of braziers. 2,500 s is roughly equal to 40 iron bars at today's iron market prices so thats just 10 braziers!
Imagine building 100 and then someone vclaims you...
Or am I completely misunderstanding vlcaims?
Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Wed May 01, 2013 7:27 pm
by Pjotr84
You can Vclaim over somebody, but you still have to pay double the claiming rate for every tile you take over from the Pclaim.
Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Wed May 01, 2013 7:56 pm
by Darkside
Pjotr84 wrote:You can Vclaim over somebody, but you still have to pay double the claiming rate for every tile you take over from the Pclaim.
Ahh, so that's the trick!
Yeah then it definitely is not as easy to pclaim someone as I thought.
Thanks for the info
Re: Newbie Questions about Security

Posted:
Wed May 01, 2013 8:56 pm
by k545836
Mereni wrote:The braziers still wake up after a couple trespass/larceny acts, or after any waste crime at all.
Is that so? Wiki says that it is waste that wake it up. Besides... they can get in for free, locate valuables and only then after couple of larceny... bother about braziers.
So i definitely see the point to claim 5 tiles out of the walls. Maybe use it for fields...