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Gluttoning help

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:05 pm
by gadzooks
Ok so I have read every thread & guide about gluttony on here. I have read the wiki. I am almost positive I understand how to glutton, but for whatever reason, I CANNOT RAISE MY BILES. I feel like no matter what the percentage leans to, it always gives me the opposite of what I need. I have eaten chests of food (suggested here & wiki) and still only raises my points maybe one.

My biles are currently at:
B-49
P-54
Y-51
Bb-57

I just tried to raise blood to get things more even. I ate Plank steaks, side of venison, meat pies with purity leaning towards gaining blood, cornmash gobblers & cabbage cakes & oatmeal cookies also with purity leaning towards blood.

I ate 2 whole wooden chests full and only gained 1 point.

I am so confused. I try mixing fast and slow foods but it never seems to help.

What am I doing wrong? Do I just have crappy luck? (guess I should skip the casinos?)
Can anyone suggest a list of foods to eat in the order to eat them to help me raise blood & yellow? I can cook any recipe, but my veggie & bread dough purityies are on the lowers side. (less than 10%)
Oatmeal -leaning towards red or yellow
punkins- yellow
Cabages- mostly green

Thanks again in advance.

Re: Gluttoning help

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:00 pm
by RainbowMoostache
You should have better purity in your food, for being medium humored.

Re: Gluttoning help

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:06 pm
by BlackrCrackr
Actually I would suggest that you farm your purity up some, then use yellow pumpkin flesh for yellow and either red or blue colewort for blood. As for the low chance of getting the proper reaction, the purity will help with that as well. Basically if you want to ever reach decent humours purity crops are a must. So get grinding!

Re: Gluttoning help

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:08 pm
by ysbryd
Blue beary, aztec abattoir, mushroom pies... its working for me.
Best of luck, and some of these veterans will give you more ideas than I can.

Re: Gluttoning help

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:42 am
by Hans_Lemurson
gadzooks wrote:Ok so I have read every thread & guide about gluttony on here. I have read the wiki. I am almost positive I understand how to glutton, but for whatever reason, I CANNOT RAISE MY BILES. I feel like no matter what the percentage leans to, it always gives me the opposite of what I need. I have eaten chests of food (suggested here & wiki) and still only raises my points maybe one.

My biles are currently at:
B-49
P-54
Y-51
Bb-57

I just tried to raise blood to get things more even. I ate Plank steaks1, side of venison2, meat pies3 with purity leaning towards gaining blood, cornmash gobblers4 & cabbage cakes5 & oatmeal cookies6 also with purity leaning towards blood.

I ate 2 whole wooden chests full and only gained 1 point.

I am so confused. I try mixing fast and slow foods but it never seems to help.

What am I doing wrong? Do I just have crappy luck? (guess I should skip the casinos?)
Can anyone suggest a list of foods to eat in the order to eat them to help me raise blood & yellow?7 I can cook any recipe, but my veggie & bread dough purityies are on the lowers side. (less than 10%)
Oatmeal -leaning towards red or yellow8
punkins- yellow9
Cabages- mostly green 10

Thanks again in advance.

I added numbers in your quote on the points where I will comment or respond.

1. Plank steaks are terribly slow to eat. By the time you finish, you will probably have lost most of the points it gained you. Time is a very important factor in gluttony, since you're racing against invariance. NOT A GOOD BLOOD SOURCE
2. Side of Venison is a similar story, but not quite as severe. It worked for me with humours in the 30s, but around the 40's it started being ineffective. MEDIOCRE BLOOD SOURCE
3. Meat pies give Phlegm twice as often as either Blood or Yellow Bile. They are reliable for intensity (you'll get 18 of something), but not for any specific humour. They are not a good or reliable Blood source. Also their long term value is limited since meat has no purity. NOT A GOOD BLOOD SOURCE.
4. You're trying to get Blood from Cornmash Gobblers?? They are an expensive unreliable Phlegm source, not something you eat for blood. They only have a 50% chance of yielding blood (at 0 purity), and even then it's not very much blood. NOT A GOOD BLOOD SOURCE
5. Cabbage cakes?! Those give blood? A tiny unreliable amount I guess, but these are a BB source. Unless you're confusing these with Cabbage Crumbs, which require Green Cabbage and need no water. (Purity-tastic!) Cabbage Cakes are NOT A GOOD BLOOD SOURCE. (Crumbs are good stuff though!)
6. Oatmeal cookies? Huh, I guess they do give a bit of blood, but they don't eat quick enough to justify their low yield. There is no purity category where Blood is their predominant yield or where they give it in large amounts. POOR BLOOD SOURCE

7. Why yes I can suggest a list for Raising Red and Yellow Biles!
Primary food: MUSHROOM PIES
Secondary Food: Cabbage Rolls.
Tertiary food: Aztec Abbotoir (a little slow to eat, but good numbers)
Blood-Bias foods: Papricharred Charcuterie, Side of Venison, Cornmeal Flatbread (quite reliable, and you apparently have corn and oil)
Yellow-Bile Bias foods: Wildberry Pie, Cabbage [i]Crumbs[i/]

8. Cereal should match the purity of the vegetable that it is used with. Mercury Cereal is good for Mushroom and Pumpkin Pies, whereas Salt is good for Cabbage Crumbs and Cakes. Other kinds of cereal are just used to accompany specialty high-purity foods like Lead-rich mushrooms and such.

9. Pumpkins should be anything BUT salt, with Mercury being the superior choice number-wise. Yellow Lead-rich pumpkin pie can be a powerful blood source at very high purities, but as such is more of a specialty food. Pumpking Pie is most reliable as a Phlegm Food. Blue sulphur pumpkin pie will get you pure Phlegm. If you just want as much stuff as possible, and another possible YB rich food, then Mercury is the path to travel.

10. I assume you mean Mercury-rich Cabbage, rather than cabbage grown in a field with full Cotton influence? Mercury is a relatively poor choice for Cabbage purity. The overall best element for Cabbage is Salt.



IN SUMMARY
You were eating the wrong foods, and this suggests that you might be misunderstanding something about the Gluttony system. Pies of various kinds are the best food.

Re: Gluttoning help

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:33 am
by Yourgrandmother
Instead of spending dozens of hours on crappy foods that will barely get you to 100 here is what you do.

Go look at the trade forum for the server you're on. See what goods are in demand and who is buying them.

Common items that a noob can forage on their own that are easily sellable:

Hay
Singing Logs

Go exploring many hours checking stumps and eventually you'll find a snake skull. Bam that's 1k silver. Sell Hay/Singing Logs and accumulate A LOT of silver from trades.

Now you invest in some good seeds from stalls/forum.

Plant seeds and put lime on fields.

Now you have multiple food sources that you can gluttony right from the field harvest itself and you will laugh at ever owning a meat smoker in your claim.