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Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:26 pm
by Gernot
Hi there,

i'm not sure if this is my ineptitude or a bug introduced recently, but i'm no unable to get barley from farming (I got some before).

Now, what confuses me is that i thought for tier 2, the higher of the two important influence bars determines outcome.
I've got a field with 90 influence 1 and 70 influence 4 which yields some wheat (as expected since 90 + 70 is 160 > 150) but also gives rye.
I've also got a field with no influence 1 and 90 influence 4 which also gives rye.

My question is, since i got a field with influence 1 higher and a field with influence 4 higher, and both give rye, how do i get barley?

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:01 pm
by Hans_Lemurson
I am curious about this as well, since I haven't gotten any fields to high enough influence levels yet for these more advanced grains. Pumpkins take a LONG time to build up influence.

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:06 pm
by Kandarim
Hans_Lemurson wrote:I am curious about this as well, since I haven't gotten any fields to high enough influence levels yet for these more advanced grains. Pumpkins take a LONG time to build up influence.


note that for influence, you can just harvest pumpkins at their first harvestable stage. That makes raising influence on them just as fast as any other produce. since at 100% plenty you'll get 4 pumpkins (each containing 6 seeds), you only need a very small lime boost for a break-even on the seeds.

You probably have an excess of pumpkin seeds anyway, so who cares about those :)

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:46 am
by Gernot
bump

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:56 am
by staxjax
To get only tier 2 products you have to use one bar or the other.

Raise cabbage influence (1) -> Plant cereal for barley
Raise pumpkin influence (4) -> Plant cereal for rye
Raise both bars (1&4) -> Plant cereal for wheat/rye mix

Raise cotton influence (3) -> plant cabbage for green cabbage
Raise pumpkin influence (4) -> plant cabbage for white cabbage
Raise both bars (3&4) -> plant cabbage for red/white mix

tbh, nobody really ***** around with barley though (or rye).

For your viewing pleasure: Farming Influence Flow Chart

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:09 am
by Hans_Lemurson
staxjax wrote:tbh, nobody really ***** around with barley though (or rye).

Hmm...why do they EXIST then? :?

Surely Rye Bread's non-specific low-value gluttony points make it an essential food!

...

Ok, and it's pumpkins for RYE, and cabbage for barley.

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:58 am
by Potjeh
I don't understand why this would happen, my wheat fields produce barley leftovers just fine. Can you post a screenshot of your field metres?

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:00 pm
by Yourgrandmother
Barely is crap, so is rye and wheat.

The only use was early-mid server before you had developed mercury pumpkin / salt cabbage for yellow bile crescent croissant (even then debateable due to sugar cost.)

The t2 crop you receive from a T3 harvest (impossible to get 200 bar and 100% t3 production) will be the FIRST bar you built up on that field. (and the crop it influences)

For example:

Your gazillion cereal fields eventually hit 100 bar. You then grow some cabbage to build up that bar to 100 to build up T3 cotton. Once bars are 100 / 95 respectively or lower and some combination over 150 you grow some cotton. The result will be egyptian cotton and sea island cotton because the first bar you worked on was cereal which makes egyptian. If you had done cabbage before cereal you would be making indian cotton and sea island cotton.

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:08 pm
by Potjeh
John Barleycorn made with high purity cereals is pretty awesome IMO.

Re: Farming: How to get barley

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:46 am
by Hans_Lemurson
Yourgrandmother wrote:Barely is crap, so is rye and wheat.

The only use was early-mid server before you had developed mercury pumpkin / salt cabbage for yellow bile crescent croissant (even then debateable due to sugar cost.)

The t2 crop you receive from a T3 harvest (impossible to get 200 bar and 100% t3 production) will be the FIRST bar you built up on that field. (and the crop it influences)

For example:

Your gazillion cereal fields eventually hit 100 bar. You then grow some cabbage to build up that bar to 100 to build up T3 cotton. Once bars are 100 / 95 respectively or lower and some combination over 150 you grow some cotton. The result will be egyptian cotton and sea island cotton because the first bar you worked on was cereal which makes egyptian. If you had done cabbage before cereal you would be making indian cotton and sea island cotton.


Very interesting. Do the influence totals affect the 2nd/3rd tier ratios?