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Postby fenzor » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:40 pm

I've seen numerous pictures of people's forts, most people using stone walls. Why is it that people rarely use plank walls? Is it just the cost, or there's some quirk about it I don't know of?
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Re: Plank walls

Postby Droj » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:53 pm

each timber pile takes 40 fresh boards and 10 stone (time taken into account of cutting 40 fresh board on sawbuck)
once completed it will take around 5 days to get dry boards (if built near objects causes mouldy boards = no use)
using dry boards you can then plane boards %success based on H&N Skill
with planed boards you attempt to make oiled boards that take another 2 days to make. (need oiling trough and oil) with a random % to fail and turn into warped board that can then be planed again using the carpenters bench.

sprouting trees take 3? days %success based on NP and S&C skill
after planting a tree it will take 7 days to fully grow.

The actual requirements for each plank wall section and gates can be found here. Gates require 4 nails & 4 leather each as well as planed and oiled boards. All sections require a certain quantity of planed boards though.

edit: whereas stone hedges require only lime, any form of stone and granite that can be easily foraged or mined. Granted they are weaker but you can erect them faster with several layers.
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Re: Plank walls

Postby Mereni » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:38 am

And since dross counts as stone, that makes stone hedge super easy if you smelt at all. You only need to hunt down granite boulders, and a little lime for the corners.
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Re: Plank walls

Postby martinuzz » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:32 am

At a certain point, plank fences become more attractive. The point where you get tired of walking for hours trying to find granite boulders, because they do not respawn.
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Re: Plank walls

Postby Gallient » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:33 am

As others have said for the time and effort involved plank is not that much better. However with splash only affecting equal and lower tier walls, plank can be quite helpful in reducing the area you need to cover with braziers for a decent number of walls.
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Re: Plank walls

Postby Darkside » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:42 pm

So with splash you want to build plank as an inside later to stone right?

Does splash penetrate multiple layers? Like if I have 3 stone wall layers without any spacing when someone wastes a section of outside wall does it damage both inside layers or just the middle one?
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Re: Plank walls

Postby Gallient » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:29 pm

Darkside wrote:So with splash you want to build plank as an inside later to stone right?

Does splash penetrate multiple layers? Like if I have 3 stone wall layers without any spacing when someone wastes a section of outside wall does it damage both inside layers or just the middle one?

If the walls are connected sections then they will only splash 1 tile, however if the walls aren't connected(as in different layers) from all the tests I've conducted the splash can go up to 6 tiles and yes it will damage multiple layers. So if you have 3 stone walls right next to each other this is likely how it's going to go:

Raider will destroy first wall, damaging both the second and third wall by aprox 80%.
Raider will destroy second wall(which only had around 20% health remaining).
Splash from second wall will finish off the already damaged third wall.

So with 3 stone layers right next to each other you are effectively only getting ~1.2 stone layers worth of defense.
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Re: Plank walls

Postby Darkside » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:47 pm

Gallient wrote:
Darkside wrote:So with splash you want to build plank as an inside later to stone right?

Does splash penetrate multiple layers? Like if I have 3 stone wall layers without any spacing when someone wastes a section of outside wall does it damage both inside layers or just the middle one?

If the walls are connected sections then they will only splash 1 tile, however if the walls aren't connected(as in different layers) from all the tests I've conducted the splash can go up to 6 tiles and yes it will damage multiple layers. So if you have 3 stone walls right next to each other this is likely how it's going to go:

Raider will destroy first wall, damaging both the second and third wall by aprox 80%.
Raider will destroy second wall(which only had around 20% health remaining).
Splash from second wall will finish off the already damaged third wall.

So with 3 stone layers right next to each other you are effectively only getting ~1.2 stone layers worth of defense.


lol nasty... that splash damage is really something!

thanks for the explanation!
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Re: Plank walls

Postby Mereni » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:40 pm

That's wrong. Splash will only damage the next layer, not several.
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Re: Plank walls

Postby Kandarim » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:44 pm

Mereni wrote:That's wrong. Splash will only damage the next layer, not several.


exactly (but in an earlier implementation, it did damage multiple layers).
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