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Best purities for Cereal and Cabbage

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:06 pm
by Sachaztan
So even before I tilled my first field I came across some ears of cereal in a tree stump in the middle of nowhere (lulwut?). I threshed them and used them on my first fields ofc since I got them for free, but now i begin to wonder about what purities I should try to get. My seeds had something like 30% salt 30% lead iirc, but sevenless guide seems to recommend mercury purity.

So what purity do you guys think is the best for cereal and cabbage? Is there any point in pushing salt or lead purity in cereal?

Re: Best purities for Cereal and Cabbage

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:20 pm
by staxjax
As long as your cereal will match your pumpkins and cabbage, it doesnt really matter. Eventually, you will want to have all types anyways so just stick with trying to increase one line for now. You really won't have a problem raising your biles for a long while.

Re: Best purities for Cereal and Cabbage

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:27 pm
by Jaunt
Sevenless is, I believe, outdated on crop alchemy. But I don't feel like doing the legwork to find out for sure. In order to figure out what purities to push, look up the crop and then look up all the things you can make with it, keeping in mind that you can all but guarantee certain gluttony outcomes.

As an example, cabbage is good for cabbage cakes and cabbage crumbs. Cakes gives black bile pretty much no matter what, and Lead only beats the lowest by 3 BB and the second highest by .5 BB. As for Cabbage Crumbs, Salt gives 19 YB and sulphur gives 15. So Salt is a pretty awesome cabbage.

As for cereal, you'll want a matching cereal for every crop you make. So you make salt cabbage for crumbs? You need salt cereal to use as flour. And Mercury oatmeal crackers on their own aren't too bad for phlegm.

My short, helpful list of foods that is by no means complete: Lead pumpkins for blood, mercury pumpkins for phlegm, salt cabbage for YB, any cabbage cakes for BB. That hits all your humours.

Re: Best purities for Cereal and Cabbage

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:58 am
by Yourgrandmother
Cereal:

Mercury or Salt for Oatmeal Crackers 0-200 Phlegm gluttony
*Oatmeal Crackers ideal work food untill 40+ cabbage

Salt for cabbage crumbs for YB or secondary blood starter

Lead for Cabbage Crumb black bile

Lead for pie dough to early game Pumpkin pies for blood 0-200

Mercury for pie dough for phlegm pumpkin pies

Cabbage:

Salt Cabbage Crumb for YB

Salt Cabbage for white cabbage leaf for blood

Sulphur Cabbage for white cabbage leaf for blood

Lead/Sulphur for Cabbage Cakes for 0-200 Black Bile

Lead Cabbage for Black Bile Cabbage Crumbs endgame

Re: Best purities for Cereal and Cabbage

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:13 am
by Hans_Lemurson
Yourgrandmother wrote:Cereal:

Mercury or Salt for Oatmeal Crackers 0-200 Phlegm gluttony
*Oatmeal Crackers ideal work food untill 40+ cabbage

Salt for cabbage crumbs for YB or secondary blood starter

Lead for Cabbage Crumb black bile

Lead for pie dough to early game Pumpkin pies for blood 0-200

Mercury for pie dough for phlegm pumpkin pies

Cabbage:

Salt Cabbage Crumb for YB

Salt Cabbage for white cabbage leaf for blood

Sulphur Cabbage for white cabbage leaf for blood

Lead/Sulphur for Cabbage Cakes for 0-200 Black Bile

Lead Cabbage for Black Bile Cabbage Crumbs endgame


Good info as always, Yourgrandmother. You're like a walking wiki! :D

Re: Best purities for Cereal and Cabbage

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:09 am
by MagicManICT
Jaunt wrote:Sevenless is, I believe, outdated on crop alchemy. But I don't feel like doing the legwork to find out for sure.


The guide is, as there has been changes since it was written.

Re: Best purities for Cereal and Cabbage

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:43 am
by robert
ideally the best purity you want is 100% of whatever mineral content you are after.

as water's dwarfing 0% purity will drop 100% oatmeal to 25% pure dough for pies and im sure crackers and other flour based goods suffer similar drop do to water purity.

you are best option is to have 4 fields running either 4 of the same mineral type crop (incase of downgrade from planting you have 1/4 chance that 1 crop will be +% purity for what you want, instead of relying on a single field)

then you just keep spamming higher and higher purity (also monitor the actual mineral count. if you harvest 2 oatmeal fields and one is 10% pure salt 10.30 mineral and one is 10% salt 11.05 mineral you are better off planting the 11 point one as its better odds it will switch to 11 or 12% purity salt. ofcourse the 10.30 isnt bad either (its also some times important to watch mineral and purity when you are milling it to flour or thrashing to seeds, as the lower mineral numbers will start to mess with the overall purity if you mix higher mineral with lower so should bare that inmind. typically +/-5 points of mineral isnt a huge issue but mixing +/-10 or more levels you start to hit 2 or more levels of purity and it can really start to mess with stuff

all in all your best bet is to either buy high purity seeds or if its npc bought just spend several weeks grinding them up store the seeds you want for other purity grinding if they show to be going those routes and just spam plant the mineral/purity you want right now. and drive them to 90% pure. by then you are making pretty good glut foods