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Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:10 am
by gadzooks
I thought fence strength in order from weakest to strongest:
Splitrail>stone>Plank

Is this correct? I ask because I am replacing my splitrail with plank and my splitrail just caused splash damage to plank...I'm confused

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:40 am
by Yourgrandmother
Hmm good to know.

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:21 am
by Hans_Lemurson
Split-rail does not give splash damage to Stone though, correct?

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:38 am
by gadzooks
Correct, my stone fence stayed intact, no damage

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:11 am
by robert
lower tier walls do not effect (splash) highter tier walls.

makeshift will not splash rail (provided its current lack of splash is a bug and is changed later)
rail will not splash stone/plank but will splash other rail or makeshift (ofcourse provided the splash on makeshift is a bug that is fixed)
stone will not splash plank but will splash stone or rail down
plank will splash plank and below as normal. unless another wall is added its the top final wall ingame so will effect all walls below it.

thats basically how the devs set it up. ofcourse makeshift right now has - splash so doesnt effect and is not effected by anything from splash. but that could be changed later.

if you do rail/stone/plank you do have to keep in mind the lower tier walls are also lower soak and hp. so while you dont splash walls with rail, the rail is also vastly weaker then stone or plank. so you win/lose with it as the pure defense wall

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:32 am
by Hans_Lemurson
Except that Gadzooks noticed the Plank Wall getting splashed by the demolition of a split-rail. I'm thinking that this is looking like a bug report.

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:06 pm
by Darkside
About this splash damage: does this mean when you destroy or waste and target a section of wall, nearby sections also get damaged right? How big of a % of damage do they take and what is the range?

Basically what is the minimum distance you can place a second layer of wall without it suffering collateral damage from someone hitting the first layer.

And if the splash damage is several tiles how much does the damage diminish?
If the splash damage is not too bad maybe it is still worth it putting adjacent layers if you are a happy stone wall builder

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:29 pm
by Yourgrandmother
Distance does not diminish damage and from what I've seen it's about ~80% dmg to adjacent walls up to ~5 tiles.

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:21 pm
by Darkside
Yourgrandmother wrote:Distance does not diminish damage and from what I've seen it's about ~80% dmg to adjacent walls up to ~5 tiles.


Oh wow really ?! Is that intended to work like that? I can have 2 stone wall layers with 4 tiles gap between them and when someone hits a segment of the outside layer they are doing 80% damage to a segment on the inside layer too? :o

Re: Plank Fence vs splitrail vs stone

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:34 pm
by qbradq
According to the Wiki splash damage will only travel to one adjacent wall segment (up to at least 4 tiles away), but won't penetrate that wall segment. So if you had two layers of wall closer to each other than 5 tiles you'd only have 120% effective wall HP. If you had three layers, even side-by-side, you have 220% effective wall HP. 100% for the first wall, 20% for the next (soaks splash damage to 80%), then 100% for the final layer.

It'd be interesting to test this thoroughly. Maybe you could alternate higher-tier walls and makeshift fence, using the makeshift fence as a sponge for the soak damage.