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Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:12 pm
by Darkside
Afraid of the answer... but can another player destroy your claim stone? And thus crapping your whole invested silver into the land?

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:30 pm
by m4sCaRpWn
I believe a claim can only be destroyed if the maintenance on it isn't paid. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:32 pm
by Darkside
m4sCaRpWn wrote:I believe a claim can only be destroyed if the maintenance on it isn't paid. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


maintenance? what maintenance? I know I saw mention of some upkeep in the game menus but when I click on my claim where I expand it the only cost display is the one that shows you the cost of expanding it further.

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:34 pm
by dageir
There is a silver drain in claim stones. I havent tried it myself, but a person with the right skills can lay waste to an entire claim in minutes.

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:47 pm
by Darkside
Is there a special window for seeing the upkeep and putting money toward the upkeep?
someone can waste your claim regardless of whether you paid upkeep or not?

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:08 pm
by MagicManICT
The upkeep remaining is displayed on the claim stone info window. The stone holds enough for 60 days (2 months) and a new claim always starts with 30 days upkeep.

Waste claims only apply to villages, and yes, a waste claim can be placed at any time no matter what the upkeep status is. Personal claims can be assaulted at any time without warning. Everything on the claim can be stolen or destroyed (assuming rules allow the object to be moved or destroyed). The only two ways the personal claim itself can be destroyed is A) upkeep completely drains out and hasn't been paid, leaving the stone unprotected from destruction (no word on if they will actually decay over time), or B) a player can place a Town Bell nearby and use the authority as a mayor to revoke the claim through Eminent Domain. In the case of Eminent Domain, the player that was revoked receives the silver invested in claim expansion back.

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:18 pm
by Darkside
MagicManICT wrote:The upkeep remaining is displayed on the claim stone info window. The stone holds enough for 60 days (2 months) and a new claim always starts with 30 days upkeep.

Waste claims only apply to villages, and yes, a waste claim can be placed at any time no matter what the upkeep status is. Personal claims can be assaulted at any time without warning. Everything on the claim can be stolen or destroyed (assuming rules allow the object to be moved or destroyed). The only two ways the personal claim itself can be destroyed is A) upkeep completely drains out and hasn't been paid, leaving the stone unprotected from destruction (no word on if they will actually decay over time), or B) a player can place a Town Bell nearby and use the authority as a mayor to revoke the claim through Eminent Domain. In the case of Eminent Domain, the player that was revoked receives the silver invested in claim expansion back.


Excellent. thanks for that explanation!

Would be good to have that on the wiki page for Stake Claim too

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:17 am
by Alexivo
Just lost my claim to a raider. Spawned an alt (salvaging items from the homestead) too soon to his raiding and he broke my stone and put one of his own down. Now he owns my pretty house and the braziers defending it.

This was as a result of the recent patch put into place which allows claim stones to be destroyed for... 5 minutes i believe... following the spawning of a toon at your homestead.

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:30 am
by Darwoth
Alexivo wrote:Just lost my claim to a raider. Spawned an alt (salvaging items from the homestead) too soon to his raiding and he broke my stone and put one of his own down. Now he owns my pretty house and the braziers defending it.

This was as a result of the recent patch put into place which allows claim stones to be destroyed for... 5 minutes i believe... following the spawning of a toon at your homestead.



did you get refunded silver from the claims into your bank?

Re: Can your claim be destroyed by other players?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:56 am
by Alexivo
Nope. Had about 700 ish in it when it was destroyed. 4s waiting for me at the bank from when silver was refunded back in the day (upon 7 day claim destruction window).