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How much C&D for 0 difficulty on hardest artifacts ?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:47 pm
by Lansett
Hi.

On the "50 to 0" difficulty C&D artefacts, like pearls, I've been at 1 difficulty for a while (from 225 C&D I think), and I was thinking, go for the 0 you can do it brave pilgrim.
I'm now at 300 C&D and still stuck at 1 difficulty on such artifcats :(
Someone knows how much I need please ?
I'm quite disillusioned atm I no longer want to advance further blindly.

Re: How much C&D for 0 difficulty on hardest artifacts ?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:19 am
by Forungi
I don't know any facts or details about this, but, if you look at the tailors (for example) they seem to be getting 0 diff at around 6-700+

Re: How much C&D for 0 difficulty on hardest artifacts ?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:28 am
by Bjebr
I didn't make clothing / slotting for a long time ; but it used to be like this :

- First your proficiencies are compared to the artifact list to lower the difficulty . For exemple for a mined gem like Dravite which is a 15 to 5 Law& Lore difficulty : with 0 in L&L you''ll have a 15 "base difficulty" so 85% chance of slotting in 0 difficulty clothes . With thousands of L&L you''ll have a 5 "base difficulty" so 95% chance of slotting in 0 difficulty clothes. With 50 L&L you should have 10 "base difficulty" : (5+ (15-5)/2) ; with 100 L&L you should have 8 "base difficulty" : (5+ (15-5)/3), with 150 L&L 7.5 (5+ (15-5)/4)...
- After that you check the cloth difficulty. If you have a 90% "base difficulty" , then you'll have 90% "final" slotting chance in a 0 difficulty cloth , 85.5% chance in a 5 difficulty cloth (90 base x95%) , 81% chance in a 10 difficulty cloth (90 base x90%) ... 67.5% chance in a 25 difficulty cloth (90 x75%)


Here's a older explanation of how much C&D you'll need in case of several proficiencies involved : "First, you need to calculate Effective Matched Proficiency - it is square root of sum of squares of your proficiency values of matched proficiencies in clothing and artifice - SQRT(Pr1^2 + Pr2^2 + ... + Prn^2)." : no idea if it's still currently calculated like that .



1% is already pretty good , not sure you can have 0% because there will be a rounding involved.



Bjebr

Re: How much C&D for 0 difficulty on hardest artifacts ?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:05 am
by Kandarim
you can always still fail when it shows 100%:it will actually mean 99.5% or something like that. Due to diminishing returns, you'll never actually hit 0.

Re: How much C&D for 0 difficulty on hardest artifacts ?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:58 pm
by gustavohvg
Can anyone confirm that 225 of the proficiencies involved already drops the difficulty from 50 to 1?

Re: How much C&D for 0 difficulty on hardest artifacts ?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:15 am
by Lansett
I can confirm it's before 247. That's what I had when I slotted my combat set.